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YouTube Premium still has """promotional""" content (read: ads). Ad cards, ad footers, etc. https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/s/8CHWGReiQt
And your evidence is a screenshot in a reddit post from 2 years ago? Rather than "Open the app and check", which I did, and there a no ads. Nor have I ever seen that promo from the screenshot, or any of those other things you mention. I'm guessing you are complaining about something that you don't even have?
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Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
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Cable TV in the 80s started out ad free. Then they realized they could only grow revenues at the rate they wanted with ads.
> Cable TV in the 80s started out ad free. This is untrue in the US. There were ad supported cable TV channels before 1980. Most of the first cable TV channels were ad supported from the start or adopted advertising within the first few years of going on-air. For example, TBS, ESPN, and USA had ads from day one, with those launching in 1976, 1980, and 1977 respectively. Nickelodeon was ad-free at its launch in 1979 b…
whose mid-day ad blocks (or product placements) sold…you guessed it…soap…to captive housewives.
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
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First off the content creators don't mark up where sponsored segments are, the algo builds on statistics of where people skip. So if a video is fresh, it might not work. Second, you are capable of building a coherent argument, but left out that almost half of viewers don't pay. When you are a child, paying for things is frustrating and annoying, so the ones taking the money are bad. When you grow up, you realize that…
"You pay and it's yours." Which is exactly why, having paid for an ad-free service, people are miffed when ads appear anyway. I'm not going to take on the responsibility of educating you as to the examples that exist, because that's your own responsibility. Not only because we have to educate ourselves, but because you made the unsupported claim in the first place that the phenomenon doesn't exist. Proving a negative…
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
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And your evidence is a screenshot in a reddit post from 2 years ago? Rather than "Open the app and check", which I did, and there a no ads. Nor have I ever seen that promo from the screenshot, or any of those other things you mention. I'm guessing you are complaining about something that you don't even have?
You must love the taste of rubber
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
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I just took a look at your last post. It asks to use a Google account or create an account. Unless there is a way to try it freely, it's very difficult to get traction in HN. After a few clicks, I noticed you posted a link to a shared document, but I can click "make a copy" and edit my own copy. I tried clicking the button "f(x)" and typing \displaystyle\cancel{\frac{1}{2}} and it works :) --- So I took a look at you…
Thanks for the feedback. I will try that :) Revise can already do a lot of things neither Google nor Overleaf can so I think it has an edge.
Edit:
Stealing an idead from a very old thread that I can't find, someone posted a editable site. Perhaps you can build s short document with the main features for HN users and post something like https://revise.io/clone-now-this-doc/oury1n34-b9g42wkt assuming `docs-clone-now-this` is the correct spell to make a copy of that URL.
How long does the site retain the docs of unlogged people? Did you already got spam?
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#206We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…
Wow, #1 post on HN right now... First time ever for me.
Set up an estate to protect this IP until 70 years after your death. After that I guess we're doomed, but we'll have had a good run of it until then at least!
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#207It’s strange to see extreme amount of hysteria on this. There’s enough market competition to not allow this. If ChatGPT is doing it then just move to Claude. If all are doing it then surely opensource models are a good alternative. But i think leaning into the hysteria provides some comfort
This one apparently originated at Reddit, natch:
https://cordcutting.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/quink.png
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#208We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#209We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…
Maybe people will start running local models on their phones to avoid this, i've seen a couple of apps for android that do just that.
What kind of phone do you have that outperforms my gaming rig?
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
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Is this avoidable? These things cost money to run. Who pays if not with ads? There will I’m sure be the ability to pay and not have ads just like there is on streaming platforms, podcasts, etc. Or should there be tax supported free AI?
> Is this avoidable? Instead of interacting with the cloud model directly, run a simple local model to interact with the cloud model and have it filter out all the ads before they reach you. This is already what the chatbots do when it comes to interacting with rest of the Web, instead of you visiting websites yourself, they collect the information from the websites for you and present it in a format of your choice w…