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Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released

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Post by abhimishra »

crag wrote: post #50
ericcholis wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps I should have worded it differently then. My goal was simply to provide other relevant alternatives to bootstrap. "Then why are you posting on a completely un-related post for Bootstrap, instead of letting it stand on it's own merits?" Actually, other popular css frameworks highlighting responsive design are very relevant to Bootstrap. Normally, one could let these frameworks stand on their own merits, but it…

"...that any bootstrap post on HN hops the popularity train right to the front page...." Doesn't mean you should jump on someone else' headline to promote Foundation. That's rude. Make you own thread. If it isn't as "popular", that's your problem.

Disagree - there is nothing rude about this. The thread is not "someone else's" - it exists to benefit the community. I, and others, found these additional leads useful.

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released

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Post by spectrum »

fudged71 wrote: post #77

In the Carousel example... there is something very wrong with the header scrolling/timing. Click the arrows a couple of times and roll across the menu. It goes crazy.

I get the same behavior. First no response from the carousel when clicking the arrows and after a few seconds it's going crazy. Windows 7 wit Chrome version 22.0.1229.94

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released

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Post by amitvaria »

papsosouid wrote: post #64
account_taken wrote: post #59

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"no purpose or value to it", really? For those who want to get a site up with good defaults, typography, and widgets, Bootstrap is a huge timesaver. If you have a better framework for those of us who "can't design" then point us in the right direction.

As I said: >I guess the answer really is "if you don't want to or can't design your site, just use twitters design" That is what you are describing, so go right ahead and use boostrap. I was just trying to figure out if there was something more to it, given that it calls itself a "framework" and minor releases of it get posted here for some reason. Those things made me think perhaps I was missing something, and it wa…

So another way to look at it is having re-usable components that you can choose to include/exclude as needed. Then use LESS to customize, tweak, extend those components as needed to create the custom design you need. https://wrapbootstrap.com/ has some examples of work done in this area.

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released

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Post by fudged71 »

spectrum wrote: post #82
fudged71 wrote: post #77

In the Carousel example... there is something very wrong with the header scrolling/timing. Click the arrows a couple of times and roll across the menu. It goes crazy.

I get the same behavior. First no response from the carousel when clicking the arrows and after a few seconds it's going crazy. Windows 7 wit Chrome version 22.0.1229.94

OSX, 22.0.1229.94

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released

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Post by darkmethod »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #40
ericcholis wrote: post #16

Hijacking the thread a bit here. Foundation ( http://foundation.zurb.com ) also released 3.2 on October 26th: http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/changelog.php

Upvoted. Contrary to others's ocd opinions, I have no problem with you posting this. I wasn't aware Foundation had gotten an update recently, nice to know. And while this thread is about Bootstrap, they're the two most sophisticated frontend frameworks available right now, so it's not totally unrelated.

Agreed. Competition is obviously beneficial. I appreciated the links to other front end frameworks as well. Being able to compare features and basic tenants across the two popular frameworks was a mini education and helpful.

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released

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Post by fudged71 »

crag wrote: post #50
ericcholis wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps I should have worded it differently then. My goal was simply to provide other relevant alternatives to bootstrap. "Then why are you posting on a completely un-related post for Bootstrap, instead of letting it stand on it's own merits?" Actually, other popular css frameworks highlighting responsive design are very relevant to Bootstrap. Normally, one could let these frameworks stand on their own merits, but it…

"...that any bootstrap post on HN hops the popularity train right to the front page...." Doesn't mean you should jump on someone else' headline to promote Foundation. That's rude. Make you own thread. If it isn't as "popular", that's your problem.

I found the other examples very useful as well.

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released

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Post by fudged71 »

latchkey wrote: post #49
olalonde wrote: post #2

Nice, this finally fixes modals in small browser windows. http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/javascript.html#modals

The modals are a trainwreck in a lot of different ways. I suggest you use this code: http://jschr.github.com/bootstrap-modal/

Every single demo on this page is buggy in my browser! (OSX, latest chrome).

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released

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Post by latchkey »

fudged71 wrote: post #87
latchkey wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The modals are a trainwreck in a lot of different ways. I suggest you use this code: http://jschr.github.com/bootstrap-modal/

Every single demo on this page is buggy in my browser! (OSX, latest chrome).

Define buggy. The guy who wrote the new modal code is pretty responsive to fixing any issues.

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released

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Post by mixmastamyk »

papsosouid wrote: post #75
wilfra wrote: post #74

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I'm not sure why you keep saying 'looks like Twitter'. Bootstrap was originally created by Twitter, it wasn't created to make every site look like Twitter - nor does it do that. As for your other comments, you seem to have a far greater knowledge and skill level dealing with CSS than you let on. That's great for you, it must make doing frontend work a breeze - and maybe you don't need Bootstrap. Not everybody is so e…

"Looks like twitter" is just shorter than "looks like every bootstrap website on the internet". My CSS knowledge and skill is very low, I'd rate myself a 2 or a 3 out of 10. I tend to leave the design work to the designers whenever I can. I certainly agree that a default stylesheet is quick and easy, I just didn't realize that's all boostrap is. Now I know the answer to the question everyone keeps asking me ("why are…

I've read your diatribe here and am underwhelmed. However, I was underwhelmed when investigating bootstrap too.

Separation of content and presentation sounds good, but a concrete example would be much more convincing. (I do understand the general idea, so pls don't explain it.) I think what I am hearing is that css styles should be applied to tags rather than classes, but am not sure.

I suppose your time would be better spent building a prototype of what you mean instead of wasting it here. One link is worth a thousand words. Do it right, put it on github, give it five years, and people will be laughing at bootstrap sites, while you are racking up consulting fees.

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released

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Post by aantix »

papsosouid wrote: post #56
wilfra wrote: post #53

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http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/components.html Have a look at that. If you want to quickly and easily add these kinds of elements to your site, bootstrap is amazing. All you do is use the proper class names and bam you got buttons, tooltips, alerts, progress bars etc etc etc. If making those things is second nature to you then you probably don't need it - but for devs who are better at backend and lost when it c…

>but for devs who are better at backend and lost when it comes to frontend/design, it can be a huge time (and money) saver. This is a large part of why I am/was so confused about the purpose of these things. That describes me exactly, and everyone keeps saying I am exactly who bootstrap and friends are made for. Yet I see no purpose or value to it at all. I guess the answer really is "if you don't want to or can't de…

>something so trivial. Getting the layout, typography and stylized components working correctly across all browsers is a tedious, tedious task.

Delegating to a framework that has an implementation that has resolved these browser idiosyncrasies is a huge win.

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