One thing Bootstrap guys should avoid doing is to modify previous css declarations. It becomes very difficult to get on the new version without breaking existing design. And by breaking I mean it will look different (line heights, spacing, etc..)
Bootstrap 2.2.0 released
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Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released
#52I'm mainly a backend guy but do some frontend work from time to time. I keep seeing all this talk about a dozen different CSS "frameworks", and I just don't get it. Can someone explain to me what the purpose of these things is? Bootstrap's site for example doesn't even try to tell me what I would want it for, it just says I want it "because its for nerds" (do I have to dress in faux-nerd chic and live in the valley t…
From looking at the code, all I see is a bunch of boilerplate CSS that seems to deliberately work against the nature of CSS (protip: the C stands for cascading), and is very brittle and tied to specific classes and markup rather than using selectors to be general and reusable.
I know this is going to sound needlessly critical to some people, but I am expressing genuine confusion here, I really don't understand what I am supposed to use this for, or how it would help me in any way.
"I'm too lazy to design my site."
"I suck at design."
"I don't have enough time to design my site from scratch."
"I don't have enough money to hire a designer."
"I want to signal my site is fresh and trendy."
Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released
#53I'm mainly a backend guy but do some frontend work from time to time. I keep seeing all this talk about a dozen different CSS "frameworks", and I just don't get it. Can someone explain to me what the purpose of these things is? Bootstrap's site for example doesn't even try to tell me what I would want it for, it just says I want it "because its for nerds" (do I have to dress in faux-nerd chic and live in the valley t…
http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/components.html
Have a look at that. If you want to quickly and easily add these kinds of elements to your site, bootstrap is amazing. All you do is use the proper class names and bam you got buttons, tooltips, alerts, progress bars etc etc etc.
If making those things is second nature to you then you probably don't need it - but for devs who are better at backend and lost when it comes to frontend/design, it can be a huge time (and money) saver.
Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly they are still broken in big browsers, though. You can still out of the modal...
What's broken in big browsers exactly? Nothing seems wrong on my MBA.
As said, you can out of the dialog. Keyboard users often "scan" pages by tabbing back- and forth rapidly. This breaks down when the modal-dialog turns out to be not so modal after all (i.e. suddenly your keyboard focus is "behind" the dialog).
Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released
#55I'm mainly a backend guy but do some frontend work from time to time. I keep seeing all this talk about a dozen different CSS "frameworks", and I just don't get it. Can someone explain to me what the purpose of these things is? Bootstrap's site for example doesn't even try to tell me what I would want it for, it just says I want it "because its for nerds" (do I have to dress in faux-nerd chic and live in the valley t…
From looking at the code, all I see is a bunch of boilerplate CSS that seems to deliberately work against the nature of CSS (protip: the C stands for cascading), and is very brittle and tied to specific classes and markup rather than using selectors to be general and reusable. I think they're doing their best. It's very hard to write both clean CSS and cross-browser compatible CSS. I know this is going to sound needl…
>I think they're doing their best. It's very hard to write both clean CSS and cross-browser compatible CSS.
I think that's a poor excuse. Our designers manage just fine without requiring me to generate horrible markup or dump dozens of classes on everything. For something that is intended to be used by other people, I would have higher quality expectations, not lower.
>If one of the following applies to you, Bootstrap is for you
Thank you for the list, that's exactly what I was hoping their website would tell me.
Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released
#56I'm mainly a backend guy but do some frontend work from time to time. I keep seeing all this talk about a dozen different CSS "frameworks", and I just don't get it. Can someone explain to me what the purpose of these things is? Bootstrap's site for example doesn't even try to tell me what I would want it for, it just says I want it "because its for nerds" (do I have to dress in faux-nerd chic and live in the valley t…
http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/components.html Have a look at that. If you want to quickly and easily add these kinds of elements to your site, bootstrap is amazing. All you do is use the proper class names and bam you got buttons, tooltips, alerts, progress bars etc etc etc. If making those things is second nature to you then you probably don't need it - but for devs who are better at backend and lost when it c…
>but for devs who are better at backend and lost when it comes to frontend/design, it can be a huge time (and money) saver.
This is a large part of why I am/was so confused about the purpose of these things. That describes me exactly, and everyone keeps saying I am exactly who bootstrap and friends are made for. Yet I see no purpose or value to it at all. I guess the answer really is "if you don't want to or can't design your site, just use twitters design". It was just hard to believe that's really all there is to it given how much attention is paid to something so trivial.
Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released
#57Does Google CDNs host bootstrap, with less or sass similar to the way they do with jquery and some other javascript libraries?
Use this one: http://www.bootstrapcdn.com, it also hosts FontAwesome and some extra themes for Bootstrap.
Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nice way to shamelessly promote your website
"Hey guys, I'm one of the millions of sites who use Bootstrap/Foundation on xyz.com!"
There aren't that many people using any 2.2.0-specific features in the wild yet, though, which is what the OP was posting to.
Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/components.html Have a look at that. If you want to quickly and easily add these kinds of elements to your site, bootstrap is amazing. All you do is use the proper class names and bam you got buttons, tooltips, alerts, progress bars etc etc etc. If making those things is second nature to you then you probably don't need it - but for devs who are better at backend and lost when it c…
>but for devs who are better at backend and lost when it comes to frontend/design, it can be a huge time (and money) saver. This is a large part of why I am/was so confused about the purpose of these things. That describes me exactly, and everyone keeps saying I am exactly who bootstrap and friends are made for. Yet I see no purpose or value to it at all. I guess the answer really is "if you don't want to or can't de…
"no purpose or value to it", really?
For those who want to get a site up with good defaults, typography, and widgets, Bootstrap is a huge timesaver. If you have a better framework for those of us who "can't design" then point us in the right direction.
Re: Bootstrap 2.2.0 released
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/components.html Have a look at that. If you want to quickly and easily add these kinds of elements to your site, bootstrap is amazing. All you do is use the proper class names and bam you got buttons, tooltips, alerts, progress bars etc etc etc. If making those things is second nature to you then you probably don't need it - but for devs who are better at backend and lost when it c…
>but for devs who are better at backend and lost when it comes to frontend/design, it can be a huge time (and money) saver. This is a large part of why I am/was so confused about the purpose of these things. That describes me exactly, and everyone keeps saying I am exactly who bootstrap and friends are made for. Yet I see no purpose or value to it at all. I guess the answer really is "if you don't want to or can't de…
You can customize it, there are even generators. It gives you a cross-browser grid and a lot of goodies. It is maintained and tested across nearly every device. A huge help, if you ask me.