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I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

#82

I can honestly understand both positions. The U.S. military must be able to use technology as it sees fit; it cannot allow private companies to control the use of military equipment. Anthropic must prevent a future where AIs make autonomous life and death decisions without humans in the loop. Living in that future is completely untenable. What I don’t understand is why the two parties couldn’t reach agreement. Surely…

A vendor doesn't want to do something you need, you find another vendor (there are others).

This is just petty.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

#83
I am reminded of bcantrill's legendary quote:

> You don’t anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn - you stick your hand in there and it’ll chop it off, the end.

Except this is like two lawnmowers going at it, which would be a sight to behold indeed.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

#86

Hard decision by Anthropic, but at least they can sleep well at night knowing their products doesn’t kill human beings around the world.

I don't think it was that hard because if they had caved a LOT of employees would have quit.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

#87

Topics like this are where I struggle with HN philosophy. Normally avoiding politics and ideology where possible, created higher quality and more interesting discussions. But how do you even begin to discuss that Tweet or this topic without talking about ideology and to contextualize this with other seemingly unrelated things currently going on in the US? I genuinely don't think I'm conversationally agile enough to b…

> Normally avoiding politics and ideology where possible, created higher quality and more interesting discussions.

Everything is politics and "ideology"

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s the crazy thing. This whole dispute was over Anthropic saying no to fully automated kill bots. They only required there be a human in the loop to press the button.

There were two red lines, as I understand it -- first, automated kill bots, and second, mass surveillance.

Neither of those red lines should be controversial. What American citizen thinks terminators and Big Brother are desirable?

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

#89

I can honestly understand both positions. The U.S. military must be able to use technology as it sees fit; it cannot allow private companies to control the use of military equipment. Anthropic must prevent a future where AIs make autonomous life and death decisions without humans in the loop. Living in that future is completely untenable. What I don’t understand is why the two parties couldn’t reach agreement. Surely…

> What I don’t understand is why the two parties couldn’t reach agreement. Surely autonomous murderous robots is something U.S. government has interest in preventing.

Consider the government. It’s Hegseth making this decision, and he considers the US military’s adherence to law to be a risk to his plans.

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