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I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by coffeemug »

I can honestly understand both positions. The U.S. military must be able to use technology as it sees fit; it cannot allow private companies to control the use of military equipment. Anthropic must prevent a future where AIs make autonomous life and death decisions without humans in the loop. Living in that future is completely untenable.

What I don’t understand is why the two parties couldn’t reach agreement. Surely autonomous murderous robots is something U.S. government has interest in preventing.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by cperciva »

Gigachad wrote: post #9
eckelhesten wrote: post #4

Hard decision by Anthropic, but at least they can sleep well at night knowing their products doesn’t kill human beings around the world.

That’s the crazy thing. This whole dispute was over Anthropic saying no to fully automated kill bots. They only required there be a human in the loop to press the button.

There were two red lines, as I understand it -- first, automated kill bots, and second, mass surveillance.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by outside1234 »

WesleyJohnson wrote: post #28

What player is going to step in and do what Anthropic wouldn't? Or, worse, will the DoW try to author its own AI to go where private AI won't?

Probably Grog, which probably means even worse outcomes

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by CSSer »

drumhead wrote: post #29
techblueberry wrote: post #2

So they are such a risk to national security that no contractor that works with the federal government may use them, but they're going to keep using them for six more months? So I guess our national security is significantly at risk for the next six months?

Dont forget Nvidia technology was condsidered too sensitive to be exported to China....until the Trump administration decided they could export it if they paid a 10% export tax.

We've moved beyond telling people not to forget and have entered "expect nothing less" territory

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by outside1234 »

easton wrote: post #24

> Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic. I’m sure the lawyers just got paged, but does this mean the hyperscalers (AWS, GCP) can’t resell Claude anymore to US companies that aren’t doing business with the DoD? That’s rough.

There is no way they can just stop selling Opus 4.6. This will crater the market.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by gip »

tgma wrote: post #19
techblueberry wrote: post #2

So they are such a risk to national security that no contractor that works with the federal government may use them, but they're going to keep using them for six more months? So I guess our national security is significantly at risk for the next six months?

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Or worse: train the AI to make decisions that align with the view of Anthropic management and not the elected government. Workout telling anyone.

I’d agree it is a serious risk.

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