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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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What can we individually do to help the people in Gaza, but even more broadly with human rights issues. Basically, to whom give our money to?

https://gaza-verified.org/

Any risk of being accused of funding terrorism by the US if I donate there?

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> Hamas murdering their own citizens again A good test of whether claim like this is true is to swap out the actor and put in "the Jews" Like this: > The Jews murdering their own citizens again Suddenly it sounds like an antisemitic conspiracy theory. And the reason why that works, is that antisemitism has nothing to do with Jews, for stupid reasons they just ended up as the victim of it. What it does do, is expose a…

I think that's a pretty loaded statement and honestly wild way to make comparisons. What do "The Jews" have to do with this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvxV4knxpLQ

This isn't some claim, Hamas is happy to film themselves doing things like this, e.g., October 7th.

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#893

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://gaza-verified.org/

Any risk of being accused of funding terrorism by the US if I donate there?

There are other efforts if you don't want to do direct donations. See Connecting Gaza (Rabbi Mivasair). There's also the Sameer Project.

Nothing helps as much as speaking out vigorously and unambiguously though and without equivocation. We have to stop killing Palestinians first.

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I genuinely don't know what distinction you're trying to make here. Do you think there aren't equivalent protests in Israel? There were minorities in both countries that opposed these responses from the beginning and those responses generally became more unpopular as time went on just like the men who spearheaded them, but a majority of both countries were initially supportive.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but your initial post reads as if Israel's genocide in Palestine is consistent with historical precedent such as the Iraq war when facing similar national traumas. I'm suggesting that many of us are disgusted now by Israel's genocide, land theft, and murder ... just as millions of us were disgusted by the Iraq war.

>Perhaps I'm wrong, but your initial post reads as if Israel's genocide in Palestine is consistent with historical precedent such as the Iraq war when facing similar national traumas.

The US response was deadlier in both total number of people killed and in proportion to the inciting terrorist attacks. Both countries also committed clear war crimes along the way.

The primary distinguishing factor between the two is the label of "genocide" only consistently being applied to Israel's actions, but that is mostly due to practical reasons, namely the relative small size of Gaza in terms of both geography and population. If Afghanistan and Iraq had the population density of Gaza, not only would that have likely made the US response even more deadly due to the mechanics of warfare, but it certainly would have led to more people describing the US's actions as genocide.

Once again, this is not a defense of Israel. If this reads to you like I'm downplaying the actions of Israel, then you are underestimating the death and destruction caused by the US. Some estimates have the US responsible for as many as a million deaths.

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> Attempting to use this as a defense requires conceding that the default assumption is that someone is a terrorist until proven otherwise All other things being equal, if your opponent engages actively in hiding among medical and press workers as a type of guerrilla warfare, then the reality does become this. I'm trying to say this dispassionately because I'm aware that people get defensive, but lets say that you ha…

Also trying to speak dispassionately: If your enemy presents as the most vulnerable as the most vulnerable of a population, shouldn't that be an indication that you're colonizing? That you're squeezing so hard, oppressing so vehemently that an entire people become your enemy? Or the entire people were your enemy the whole time.

How could Israel be "colonizing" Gaza when they've repeatedly tried to hand it off to other governments? They offered it back to Egypt after the six-day war (Egypt refused), and included it in several offers which would have created a new Palestinian state, and finally failing that, unilaterally withdrew in 2005. They removed all Jewish settlements, which is literally the opposite of colonizing.

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Mods, can you look at this comment and maybe unflag it? It has some snarky language ("armchair critics") but it doesn't seem to contain anything flaggable and it provides important context, namely what I take to be the perspective from the pro-Israeli side. I for one am very curious to know what that this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47147359

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I've never seen a topic I couldn't upvote before?

I can upvote just fine. Perhaps you’ve already upvoted it, so the (already used) upvote button is now missing?

nope. I cant upvote it either. @dang

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I know Zionism as the idea that Jewish people have the right to self-determination. Do you: 1 - Think that it is something different? 2 - Think that it is, but Jewish people specifically do not have it? (I believe this is racist) 3 - Think that no people have it? 4 - Something else? If you think that Jewish people have it but just not in Palestine, where in the world do you think they should have had it?

You're wrong on the definition of zionism. Zionism is a European nationalist movement that uses the assumption there is a consensual concept of "homogeneous jewish people" who have the right to self-determination to justify Palestine's colonization. Anti-zionism is being against the colonization of Palestine and being against nationalism and supremacism. Anti-semitism is hating someone because of the are jew.

Thank you!

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Disgusted by this, I hope that the good people of Israel realize what their hideous regime is doing and stop it. I know for sure that

The good people of israel? You mean the citizen army that carried out the genocide? I am sure they really hate their government but probably because they think its not doing enough.

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> Hamas was the first to cast the stone. Palestine is a country under a brutal military occupation and progressive illegal colonisation that has been going on for 80 years. Before October 7, Israel had already killed many, many more civilians in Gaza than Hamas did in Israel with that attack.

> Palestine is a country under a brutal military occupation and progressive illegal colonisation that has been going on for 80 years. If Mexico had started attacking the US across the border, what would the US do? I'm curious to hear what you think a country should do in this circumstance.

Are the US currently illegally occupying large parts of Mexico and progressively colonising it, displacing and oppressing the Mexican population?

And if that were the case, would you say that Mexico had started attacking the US across the border? Or would you say that the US are waging war against Mexico and Mexico is fighting back?

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