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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by deaux »

austin-cheney wrote: post #123
lma21 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any posts linked to the IDF committing crimes are automatically flagged on this site (and others). Many bots are at play here.

Its not automatic due to bot activity. It is from people actively suppressing stories that don't want other people to see. This is discernible by watching how long it takes stories like these to reach a flagged state on the new submissions page. It is further evident by watching which comments within those submissions get flagged based upon their upvotes and visibility.

> Its not automatic due to bot activity. It is from people actively suppressing stories that don't want other people to see.

Correct! The same people behind the US purchase of TikTok, for the same reason.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by FrancisMoodie »

krick wrote: post #600

I would like to know: is there even a single person here, who actually changed his opinion regarding this whole matter upon seeing this report? Not confirmed anything, but actually was forced to re-evaluate his opinion. Like, previously you thought that IDF are good guys, and all Israel does is justified self-defense measures, and now you see this as genocide of Palestinians? Of course, I assume, the answer is — no o…

Journalism isn't valued by how many opinions have changed, it is there to report on stories that are or have happened. You ask for consequences in your comment but how can there be consequences if there are no reports? Absolutely baffling take.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by Parae »

xdennis wrote: post #655
abdelhousni wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot eighty years of occupation, cultural , economical and ethnical cleansing of the local indigenous people called Palestinians with help of US and Western countries mainly.

Arabs are not indigenous to Palestine. Palestine was Roman when it was colonized by the Arabs. Before Palestine, Judea was a Jewish state which was colonized by the Romans.

And before that, the australopithecus

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by YZF »

basilgohar wrote: post #703
YZF wrote: post #654

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You're right. It wasn't under occupation, it was worse. It was an open-air prison and concentration camp. https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/14/gaza-israels-open-air-pr... https://theintercept.com/2018/05/20/norman-finkelstein-gaza-... If you're hung-up about the word occupation, then use the word under seige. Gaza was under seige the entire time you claim it was under no occupation. Israel completely controlled what w…

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by leoh »

throwaw12 wrote: post #18

Things are in terrible state in the world. Gaza exposed it even more: * No one accepts high western "morality" anymore * Most US politicians are blackmailed via Epstein who worked for Israel, with high probability, including Trump * ICE is just the beginning, they're trained by IDF, send more people and 1940 is not too far away from us

ICE is not trained by the IDF??

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by truetraveller »

dotancohen wrote: post #700
Aloisius wrote: post #452

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That's surprising low given 21% of the population are Israeli Arabs.

I'm Israeli and I speak regularly with Arabs. Now mostly with Israeli Arabs but prior to October 2023 I spoke often enough with West Bankers. Every Arab I've spoken with on the topic, states that Israel should have hit Gaza harder and sooner. That's from Arabs in the south (Bedouins) and along the coastal plain and Haifa ('48ers). The Israeli Arabs are more extreme in their viewpoint towards Gaza (not only Hamas) tha…

Okay, this is surprising. But why? Are these Muslim Israeli Arabs? Or Jewish/Christian Arabs?

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by onion2k »

YZF wrote: post #667
Qem wrote: post #2

Full report: https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...

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I don't know anything about how things work in situations like this, but logic would lead me to think a convoy of aid workers wouldn't be returning fire so shooting at them with all the shots coming from the IDF side might indicate some sort of mistake quite early in the encounter. The fact they carried on shooting for 5 minutes is either a signal that they knew and just didn't care, or that they're some of the worst trained soldiers imaginable.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by [deleted] »

mattmaroon wrote: post #638
superb_dev wrote: post #243

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How is long term ethnic cleansing different from genocide?

Ethnic cleansing is the attempt to remove a people from the area. It can be accomplished by methods other than killing. Genocide is an attempt to kill them all. The Venn diagram has a lot of overlap for sure but they are not the same.

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by troosevelt »

deaux wrote: post #721
austin-cheney wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not automatic due to bot activity. It is from people actively suppressing stories that don't want other people to see. This is discernible by watching how long it takes stories like these to reach a flagged state on the new submissions page. It is further evident by watching which comments within those submissions get flagged based upon their upvotes and visibility.

> Its not automatic due to bot activity. It is from people actively suppressing stories that don't want other people to see. Correct! The same people behind the US purchase of TikTok, for the same reason.

You're attributing a whole lot of agency to things that might have different factors.

I can't downvote becuase though I've read HN since 2007ish, this is a new account. I would, however, probably downvote threads like this becuase out of all 600 comments, I don't think very many people have learned anything and a lot of blatantly false and sometimes racist stuff has been shared by people of every persuasion. I don't think these discussions are productive at all, but it makes people feel good because they're "fighting" for a cause, but they're still just a rate in a cage.

Is the cause of Gaza or Israel bettered by this comment section?

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by stoorafa »

948382828528 wrote: post #710

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Ah, yes, part one of the ole

That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not the IDF's fault. And if it was, they didn't mean it. And if they did, Gaza deserved it.

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