https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/09/the-gaza-famil... Read that and tell me that Israel is acting proportionally...
It just shows how degenerate the indoctrination really is, its just out in the open now.
IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report
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You're absolutely right, only 95% of health services were crippled. Thanks, that changes the meaning of GP entirely.
This is an important distinction. Anti-Israeli propaganda keeps echoing the false narrative of all hospitals having been totally destroyed.
The truth is that out of the 36 hospitals operating before the conflict 19 are still operational. That's a pretty far cry from 95%. There used to be 3000 hospital beds available and now there are 2000. There are also an additional 13 field hospitals.
That's a very different story (keeping in mind that Israel has taken control of large areas and any hospital that used to be there wouldn't be in use either).
Given the scale of the war and the documented use of hospitals for military purposes we have to expect there will be some impact:
- https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields....
- https://ngo-monitor.org/reports/hamas-misuse-hospitals-docs/
- https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/02/17/doctors-without-bord...
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#633I've never seen a topic I couldn't upvote before?
I can upvote just fine. Perhaps you’ve already upvoted it, so the (already used) upvote button is now missing?
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#634>Israeli soldiers fired over 900 bullets at the aid workers That is a LOT of shooting. A normal mag holds 30 rounds, that's 30 full magazines worth of bullets they dumped into these people. They were really trying to make sure there were no survivors.
Shot, execution-style, then dumped in a mass grave. The ambulances were then buried to try and hide evidence of the attack.
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The real question is: why is this on hacker news with 4 digits upvotes and why has Gaza been on Hacker News non-stop while there's been hardly any coverage of the islamist republic of Iran slaughtering tens of thousands of unarmed civilians in a matter of days. And I already know that although there's been very little coverage so far of what's happened in Iran, where islamists have been executing people inside hospit…
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Not sure I understand the mass downvotes on this one. I didn't take it as endorsing the action but summarizing the rationale.
many somewhat intellectual(1), but evil(2), people love to play make pretend of just "summarizing the rational", "playing devil advocate", "just pointing out facts" to endorse their word view while having "plausible deniability" if caught (as they tend to know many people think their ideas are evil). Idk. if this is happening here but given how some threads devolved and other patterns common for such people emerged (…
> intellectual(1), but evil(2), people love to play make pretend ... argue endlessly ... understanding of the real world and empathy (in questions of ethic/moral) but ... nit picking stuff like as if the word is just a game you find holes in the rules with to "cleverly win"
I get what you're trying to say, but ...
> playing devil advocate
One look at my comment history on this topic should help dispel the notion.
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> This is from Gemini Oh, no. Really? Come on. Prompt it differently ("Have there been ceasefire violations in Gaza by the Israelis?") and you get this: > As of February 24, 2026, there have been numerous and well-documented reports of ceasefire violations by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) in Gaza. While a ceasefire framework has been in place since October 2025, it remains extremely fragile, with both sides freque…
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It’s strange to me when otherwise intelligent people call this genocide. Genocide is an attempt to exterminate an entire people. Israel is a nuclear armed nation fighting against the equivalent of Dayton, OH. If genocide were the goal this war would have lasted one day. Collective punishment, or a long term ethnic cleansing would be much more accurate, but you’re just repeating what you read unthinkingly if you say g…
How is long term ethnic cleansing different from genocide?
Ethnic cleansing is the attempt to remove a people from the area. It can be accomplished by methods other than killing.
Genocide is an attempt to kill them all.
The Venn diagram has a lot of overlap for sure but they are not the same.
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Well they still have the full support of the usa government, and I'm pretty sure that even democrats would still keep supporting Israel. So what did they really lost? Do they even care that some Europeans don't like them ? Europeans are not the one who sell them 99% of their weapons.
Europe is extremely important to Israel. Their legitimacy stems from seeing themselves as European. Their loss of support from Europe is very bad in the long term. Yes, US is supporting them to. They are losing from both sides, though. They may have part of the remaining generation in power and that's it.
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It’s strange to me when otherwise intelligent people call this genocide. Genocide is an attempt to exterminate an entire people. Israel is a nuclear armed nation fighting against the equivalent of Dayton, OH. If genocide were the goal this war would have lasted one day. Collective punishment, or a long term ethnic cleansing would be much more accurate, but you’re just repeating what you read unthinkingly if you say g…
> If genocide were the goal this war would have lasted one day. You can't infer intent that way. Nuking Gaza isn't free, it would introduce an existential threat to Israel. They are toeing a dangerous line already, and using WMDs would align other countries against them really quickly. Putin isn't avoiding using nukes on Ukraine because he's a nice guy.
They have remotely guided bulldozers and enough non-nuclear weapons to do the job several times over conventionally too though.