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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by ryandrake »

dang wrote: post #116
dang wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We eventually saw it, but only randomly. In case you didn't see them yet, here are some of my other comments in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47141443 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47141678 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47141517 Re the concern about flagging, the situation is much as I've described in these past threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...…

Here are some stories that flaggers of this submission also flagged. I have no idea why, except for the handful of obvious spam, but it illustrates the point I made in the parent comment. The rise and fall of peer review - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47123133 - Feb 2026 (0 comments) Ladybird adopts Rust, with help from AI - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47120899 - Feb 2026 (692 comments) Pope tells pr…

As always, thanks for the transparency.

It seems that people, even "established HN users" will flag literally anything. Do you feel that there is any remaining article quality signal that can be obtained from the current flagging mechanism?

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by ignoramous »

ceejayoz wrote: post #127

I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

> All the hospitals are now rubble

Hospitals may have been used for retaliation [0], but it is unclear how many & in what capacity (according to accepted conventions, using a hospital to treat wounded combatants wouldn't make it a valid military target, for example; but hiding weapons or personnel would).

[0] One such recent report: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by lilytweed »

NicuCalcea wrote: post #102
glenstein wrote: post #27

With a specificity of the number of shots and the spatial reconstruction of the scene, there's some impressive uses of tech to bolster reporting: >A digital reconstruction of the scene shows that the soldiers would have had an uninterrupted view of the arrival of the convoy. >The reconstruction was jointly achieved with the two survivors of the incident, with an immersive spatial model they could walk through and ame…

Forensic Architecture, the people who did the spatial reconstruction, have been around for a while. You can see more examples of their investigations here: https://forensic-architecture.org/

Forensic Architecture are great. I remember their work being very hot in the international art scene around ~2018 (when they were nominated for the prestigious Turner Prize, among others - https://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-britain/turner-prize-2...).

Not sure if they're still fêted as artists or have moved away from that label. I still find their approach completely mesmerizing nevertheless.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by dang »

Y-bar wrote: post #141
dang wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: if https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47136856 is correct and you did not intend that as a slur (edit 2: which having seen https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47137004 is now clearer to me), it would be good to read some of these comments about intent vs. effects, and adjust how you post in the future: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=…

Dang, I'm writing this reply as a target of antisemitic hate. I am not strictly a Jew (though I am often mistaken for one due to both name and appearance). My relatives were hunted and gassed in WW2. The poster you are responding to is making ha joke:ish observation (probably badly communicated) that the modus operandi in the Israeli Government is to label all evidence of their crimes "antisemitic" no matter how trut…

That was not at all obvious from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47136682 alone, which gave me quite a jolt.

We have to be proactive about moderating anti-semitism on HN—which does appear, unfortunately, though of course not in every comment that someone happens to read that way. There is huge variance in how people interpret these things and we do our best to be charitable. (Also, I had better add that we do our best moderate other types of slur in just the same way.)

Let's assume you're correct. Such a point needs to be expressed thoughtfully and substantively, not snarkily in a way that pattern-matches to a slur. This ought to be clear from the site guidelines: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." - "Eschew flamebait." - "Don't be snarky." - [etc.]

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by weird_tentacles »

ignoramous wrote: post #153
ceejayoz wrote: post #127

I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

> All the hospitals are now rubble Hospitals may have been used for retaliation [0], but it is unclear how many & in what capacity (according to accepted conventions, using a hospital to treat wounded combatants wouldn't make it a valid military target, for example; but hiding weapons or personnel would). [0] One such recent report: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by ceejayoz »

weird_tentacles wrote: post #157
ignoramous wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All the hospitals are now rubble Hospitals may have been used for retaliation [0], but it is unclear how many & in what capacity (according to accepted conventions, using a hospital to treat wounded combatants wouldn't make it a valid military target, for example; but hiding weapons or personnel would). [0] One such recent report: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

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It's not at all an uncommon scenario to have to deal with in war, especially asymmetrical conflicts.

IMO, Israel stepped very clearly over the line, repeatedly, in how they handled it, but the parent post is a pretty reasonable summary of the considerations.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by DrewADesign »

eej71 wrote: post #139
jquery wrote: post #38

Real shame this got flagged so quickly, too. This is prime HN material.

No, its not. And I gladly flagged it. Redirects set to: talk.politics.misc.

> No, it’s not. And I gladly flagged it. > Redirects set to: talk.politics.misc.

So you don’t think anyone should discuss topics that touch on politics, including this war, on HN?

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by Guid_NewGuid »

johnfn wrote: post #132
therobots927 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You always have plenty of excuses when you get called out. Looking the other way while bot armies mass downvote pro Palestine / anti ICE / anti PayPal mafia content is complicity. I’m sure you have the data to suss out what is obvious to anyone watching these threads in real time.

Think about what you are saying for a moment. Why would "bot armies" come to Hacker News of all places to flag pro-Palestine articles? Don't you think it's a much more reasonable conclusion that people read the site guidelines[1], which clearly say that political posts are off-topic, and then flagged for that reason instead? There are a million places to discuss politics online. If I wanted to discuss politics, I wou…

I mean doesn't your take strain credulity as well? Let's actually think where most discussion happens these days, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, the few remaining newspaper comments sections. I'd struggle to list more off the top of my head.

Why wouldn't influence campaigns, we know every big country to be running, target this site? What reason would they have to leave it out from their list? Why not target a major news forum for the more wealthy and connected (predominantly) Americans in tech? This is not an uwu smol bean site anymore and the cost of (undetectably) botting any given site is rapidly approaching cents.

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