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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by a456463 »

EvgeniyZh wrote: post #93
dang wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You left out the parts about how and when we turn flags off, about how a certain amount of political overlap is both necessary and inevitable, but that it also can't be too much. All of those are important factors, and I've posted many explanations of them: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... https://hn.algolia.com/?query=flags%20off%20turn%20by%3Adang... We can't, however, turn off flags…

Can you remember any pro-Israeli posts you turned flags off for since the October 7 attack?

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by NicuCalcea »

glenstein wrote: post #27

With a specificity of the number of shots and the spatial reconstruction of the scene, there's some impressive uses of tech to bolster reporting: >A digital reconstruction of the scene shows that the soldiers would have had an uninterrupted view of the arrival of the convoy. >The reconstruction was jointly achieved with the two survivors of the incident, with an immersive spatial model they could walk through and ame…

Forensic Architecture, the people who did the spatial reconstruction, have been around for a while. You can see more examples of their investigations here: https://forensic-architecture.org/

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by rbanffy »

throwaw12 wrote: post #48
7952 wrote: post #22

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> * No one accepts high western "morality" anymore Is that an accurate trend on an individual basis?

Travel to Middle East, some parts of Africa and China, ask what people think. Most say have similar opinion that west is not "morally" superior.

South America as well, in particular with regard to the US. Too many coups and sponsorship of military dictatorships will do that.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by RobotToaster »

myrmidon wrote: post #80
forvelin wrote: post #11

why is this flagged ?

I'll give you the "party line" (i.e. best-effort understanding of HN-moderators perspective) for why articles like this are frequently flagged: 1) The entire discussion is a rehashing of the exact same points every time the topic is posted, and not very insightful 2) The participation rate for experts (or even authors) in the discussed field/topic is very low (compared to programming topics) 3) The discussion rarely…

> there is a significant base of "anti-political", otherwise "known-good" HN participants, that flag topics like this preemptively pretty much regardless of perspective

I'm always sceptical of this given it doesn't happen to similar posts about Iran.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by rbanffy »

glenstein wrote: post #34
throwaw12 wrote: post #18

Things are in terrible state in the world. Gaza exposed it even more: * No one accepts high western "morality" anymore * Most US politicians are blackmailed via Epstein who worked for Israel, with high probability, including Trump * ICE is just the beginning, they're trained by IDF, send more people and 1940 is not too far away from us

>Most US politicians are blackmailed via Epstein ??? Most? His network was certainly extensive but "most politicians" seems like a significantly overextended extrapolation.

I wouldn’t point to Epstein, but there is a very powerful lobby that will protect the image of any Israeli government. A lot of Evangelicals also consider Israel important in bringing about the apocalypse, without which they can’t access eternal life. I wish I was kidding on that last one, but there are people actively trying to bring down civilisation so they can go to heaven.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by modsareliars12 »

dang wrote: post #87
lma21 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any posts linked to the IDF committing crimes are automatically flagged on this site (and others). Many bots are at play here.

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=flags%20off%20turn%20by%3Adang... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47141443

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by lyingliarsg »

dang wrote: post #87
lma21 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any posts linked to the IDF committing crimes are automatically flagged on this site (and others). Many bots are at play here.

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=flags%20off%20turn%20by%3Adang... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47141443

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by lyingfireb »

dang wrote: post #87
lma21 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any posts linked to the IDF committing crimes are automatically flagged on this site (and others). Many bots are at play here.

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=flags%20off%20turn%20by%3Adang... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47141443

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by dang »

glenstein wrote: post #77
jLaForest wrote: post #72

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@dang any explanation for this being flagged? Am I still allowed to ask why the moderators don't want people to read and discuss this particular technology story?

I also would appreciate knowing if the mods see this. I'm worried that flagging is possibly automated and vulnerable to campaigning.

We eventually saw it, but only randomly.

In case you didn't see them yet, here are some of my other comments in this thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47141443

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47141678

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47141517

Re the concern about flagging, the situation is much as I've described in these past threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... Specifically, when I looked through who had flagged the current post, I saw the usual coalition between users who appear to be consistently flagging for political reasons, and other users who have quite different flagging patterns than that. In any case, virtually all of the accounts that flagged the thread were established HN users.

Sometimes when people bring this concern up, I go through and make a list of other stories that the same accounts had flagged, to illustrate the point that their flags are not exclusively targeting one specific topic or vector. I've done that here in a collapsed reply, if anyone wants to take a look.

I hope this explanation helps - your posts in this thread seemed to me to be in good faith so I wanted to respond in kind. If you still have a question that my comments and links to past explanations haven't answered, I'd be happy to take a crack at it.

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