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A simple web we own

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Re: A simple web we own

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who pays for it then?

city wide municipal Internet service, which is admittedly last mile service, was so cheap it didn't even make a dent in the local tax rates. the cost was nominal. naturally the centralized providers fought to make municipal Internet illegal

nobody works anymore so they cant raise income from taxation, city doesnt have the money to do anything.

Re: A simple web we own

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The assertion that an uncensored internet is a better world should probably require some motivation. If everyone was a normal (as far as anyone is normal) law abiding citizen perhaps I would agree, but sadly that is far from the case. I think history has quite clearly shown that there is a minority of people out there that will take advantage and ruin things for everyone else. It's the same reason we have militaries,…

Especially when the censored internet already exists, the selection pressure is going to make the uncensored internet the CSAM distribution channel.

its as if nonces exist independently of tcp/ip

Re: A simple web we own

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hes like these off-gridders that use iphones.... larping some kind of self-sufficieny, whilst being firmly tied to industrialised society and completely unwilling to sever the link

Yeah I think the author made a mistake framing his idea as something bigger than it is. Basically only serves to draw that conclusion if he pitches it as a fight against big tech. But just saying people should homelab more is totally cromulent.

> But just saying people should homelab more is totally cromulent.

it embiggens even the smallest lan

Re: A simple web we own

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Eons ago I developed a site+Windows app called 24Link (I know, horrible name) that let you run a tiny ~50KB web server in your taskbar and point it as a folder on your machine. If you visited 24link.com/{username} you would get a full page iframe that pointed at your IP:port hosting the 24Link webserver and/or a not available message if the app heartbeat failed. It quickly got to around 50K users and I thought with the then inevitable switchover to ipv6 everyone could run it. Alas both 24Link and ipv6 failed to break out but I think something in that vein could still work.

Re: A simple web we own

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This is not a technical problem, is about money and people.

Majority(>50%) of people have no idea what an OS is, you cannot expect then to care about self-hosting.

People(me included) do what is easier/cheaper, maybe down the line there are principles or ideology in the decision making.

I do not bother to read the complete article, by your actions you are a tenant/product, better lead by example.

Re: A simple web we own

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> In short: there's no hope of getting a world-wide, free, uncensored, unlimited IP4/6 network back. We never had it in the first place. We can build such a society. I am not sure why you think this is never possible. People can work for a better world. That sometimes works, too.

> We can build such a society. I am not sure why you think this is never possible. Maybe we can, but it is A) a far bigger, older, and more difficult problem than how to structure a computer network, and B) fundamentally not solvable through technological means. No matter how much technologists love the idea of technology as a liberating force, our worst instincts and dynamics always reassert themselves and soon figu…

Technology is a force multiplier. When large, powerful, institutions adopt technology they can use the leverage to suppress liberty. (Though not all do to the same extent.)

However, large institutions are also slow to move, grow, and change. At the leading edge of technological adoption small groups and individuals can use the amplified power to resist supression.

The trick is to remain at the leading edge and to remind early adopters of the power they wield. If enough of us fight for liberty many institutions will follow.

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