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Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by godelski »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #313
godelski wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well "everybody else" is Google. I'm not sure that bar is even high enough to trip over.

Google doesn't sell my data. Mozilla does.

Google doesn't sell your data?! What are you even talking about?!

Do you think Google doesn't have your data because you don't use chrome? Do you think Google doesn't gave your data because you don't use Google search? Do you think Google doesn't have your data because you don't use Android? Do you think Google doesn't have your data because you don't use Gmail? Do you think Google doesn't have your data because you don't use YouTube?

I hate to break it to you but you don't even have to use Google products for Google to have data on you. Facebook isn't the only one with tech like "Facebook pixel". You visit any website with ad sense and Google has your data. There's very little you can do on the internet that doesn't result in Google grabbing your data.

As for Mozilla, citation needed. I'm you to need evidence of this claim. I keep hearing it, but I've never seen it. I see people try to read between the lines but come on, give us some hard evidence

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by cbull »

noisy_boy wrote: post #341

I re-tried Firefox couple of weeks ago, in the latest episode of a series of tries to "finally" migrating to it. Same CPU fans blowing like jet engines randomly. None of that with Vivaldi (which is anyway all Chromium/Blink underneath) - so came back to it. Firefox has so many nice things like containers but basic performance issues are still unresolved.

I think that depends on what sites you are using/things you are doing with it. The only time the fans turn on for me is one specific dashboard in Home Assistant. Nothing else I connect to even moves the needle on temperature/CPU use

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by mmsc »

e40 wrote: post #337
mmsc wrote: post #189

In addition to completely disabling AI, I found the following setting extremely convinent to disable in about:config. They clutter up my right-click on a link or on text selection. browser.translations.select.enable dom.text_fragments.enabled privacy.query_stripping.strip_on_share.enabled devtools.accessibility.enabled Now if only I could get rid of "Print selection" and "Services" when right-clicking, too (on MacOS)

Why would you disable "dom.text_fragments.enabled"? Why "privacy.query_stripping.strip_on_share.enabled"? The latter, especially, seems helpful.

`dom.text_fragments.enabled` to remove "Copy link to highlight" on right-click. Yes, it can be useful, but I never use it and the very rare occasion of needing to use it when opening a page, I can just search it myself.

`privacy.query_stripping.strip_on_share.enabled` to remove "Copy clean link". I would rather it just did that clean link thing automatically, but I don't actually care about clean links -- it's just annoying having two "copy link" next to each other (especially with one which is greyed out 99% of the time!)

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by mmsc »

mmsc wrote: post #189

In addition to completely disabling AI, I found the following setting extremely convinent to disable in about:config. They clutter up my right-click on a link or on text selection. browser.translations.select.enable dom.text_fragments.enabled privacy.query_stripping.strip_on_share.enabled devtools.accessibility.enabled Now if only I could get rid of "Print selection" and "Services" when right-clicking, too (on MacOS)

I'm also missing:

  dom.text-recognition.enabled
  browser.search.visualSearch.featureGate
  extensions.formautofill.addresses.enabled
  extensions.formautofill.creditCards.enabled
  widget.macos.native-context-menus
The last one removes the "Services" option when right-clicking an image or highlighted text.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by mmsc »

silverwind wrote: post #249
mmsc wrote: post #189

In addition to completely disabling AI, I found the following setting extremely convinent to disable in about:config. They clutter up my right-click on a link or on text selection. browser.translations.select.enable dom.text_fragments.enabled privacy.query_stripping.strip_on_share.enabled devtools.accessibility.enabled Now if only I could get rid of "Print selection" and "Services" when right-clicking, too (on MacOS)

print.enabled should disable all the print stuff.

Thanks! I didn't know that.

I think that's a good workaround, but I'll have to re-enable it when I actually need to print something.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by burnermore »

glenstein wrote: post #344
PunchyHamster wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the 2% marketshare. I'm talking about 2% marketshare that they got from being de-facto standard, to 2%

At their peak it was like 33% or thereabouts. The claim that they were "abandoned" suggests, well, that the browser was abandoned when it wasn't. It's a mischaracterization. Market share is about some combination of (1) software quality, (2) visibility and (3) distribution lock in. Chrome managed to be arguably better on (1) but it's due to (2) and (3) that it became dominant. If (1) was all that mattered we would al…

They literally abandoned the development for their toy projects until v57 (?) Quantum release. People left Firefox to chrome cos pages like google meetup and other things were not working at all. What are you saying?

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by dubya »

blibble wrote: post #303
celsoazevedo wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to be in charge of a project like this. You're criticized no matter what you do. The old UI was criticized by some for being outdated, a mix of old and new styles, didn't fit well with new OS/app styles, etc. It was crap. So they update the UI and it's still crap... for other users. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

the people still using a fat client are likely doing it because they don't like change edit: I say this MYSELF as a thunderbird user! I don't want an "new experience" every 9 months, and having to explain it to my parents

Both outlook.office.com and mail.google.com use much more memory and CPU than any "fat" client, and are constantly changing little things about the UI. Safari now often closes outlook automatically on an M5 Mac because it's using significant amounts of energy.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by Rexxar »

squeefers wrote: post #349
wongarsu wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The word artificial intelligence was coined in a 1955 research proposal [1] which listed seven aspects of the "artificial intelligence problem". Computers using languages was one of them. Another is "neuron nets", which would indeed encompass a large part of ML and at least Google Translate since circa 2016 [2]. This is also perfectly in line with how the word AI was used until circa 2022. The weird thing is this nar…

> This is also perfectly in line with how the word AI was used until circa 2022. show me a screenshot or link of one website or app using AI to mean machine translation from prior to 2022, AI has re-entered the lexicon covering anything from an algorithm to Sora. if anything its broadened, not narrowed in scope. me and you might mean transformer when we say AI, but the average speaker doesnt make that distinction. th…

Here is the "artificial intelligence" part of a French engineering diploma in 2001:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030526120130/http://www.ensta....

There are four courses:

  - Expert Systems
  - Machine Learning
  - Artificial Evolution
  - Cognition and Reasoning

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by nosioptar »

Gud wrote: post #367
wackget wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You must be joking. The Supernova UI redesign is an unmitigated disaster. They unnecessarily butchered the look and feel of Thunderbird to the point where people are switching to forks.

Absolutely. New Thunderbird sucks, I was afraid this would happen when they resumed development. what’s the best alternative? Give me the 1990s GUI back.

Clawsand SeaMonkey both have a more reasonable design. (SeaMonkey did a piss poor job picking screenshots for their webpage...)

https://www.claws-mail.org/screenshots.php

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/screenshots

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by nosioptar »

j1436go wrote: post #300

I switched to LibreWolf, use uBlock Origin and have modified the web search so it uses noai.duckduckgo.com and appends -ai to every Google search query. I'm rather happy with this setup.

I didn't know about ddg's noai subdomain, normal ddg has become unusable with all the ai shit they constantly shove down your throat.

Also, their ai makes copilot look good.

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