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Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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I re-tried Firefox couple of weeks ago, in the latest episode of a series of tries to "finally" migrating to it. Same CPU fans blowing like jet engines randomly. None of that with Vivaldi (which is anyway all Chromium/Blink underneath) - so came back to it.

Firefox has so many nice things like containers but basic performance issues are still unresolved.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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I re-tried Firefox couple of weeks ago, in the latest episode of a series of tries to "finally" migrating to it. Same CPU fans blowing like jet engines randomly. None of that with Vivaldi (which is anyway all Chromium/Blink underneath) - so came back to it. Firefox has so many nice things like containers but basic performance issues are still unresolved.

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Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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They should get the best metrics out of update server communications anyhow, 30% or more users getting update downloads than having AI enabled should be obvious.

I've read this three times now and still don't understand you. Do you think people don't update their software? Are you just counting every update as people happy about the kill switch? There'll be so much noise in that signal it'll be almost useless. You can't differentiate it from anything else. For all anyone knows it happened because the word Firefox was in the top story on hacker news

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Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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They push millions of lines of code every year, thousands of patches and all kinds of measurable performance improvements so not sure what you're talking about.

the 2% marketshare. I'm talking about 2% marketshare that they got from being de-facto standard, to 2%

At their peak it was like 33% or thereabouts. The claim that they were "abandoned" suggests, well, that the browser was abandoned when it wasn't. It's a mischaracterization. Market share is about some combination of (1) software quality, (2) visibility and (3) distribution lock in. Chrome managed to be arguably better on (1) but it's due to (2) and (3) that it became dominant.

If (1) was all that mattered we would all be using the Preso engine version of Opera right now.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Please let whoever steers Thunderbird development and road map also steer Firefox. Thunderbird is at the moment the pinnacle of user-centered, focused and down-to-earth development of open-source software.

You must be joking. The Supernova UI redesign is an unmitigated disaster. They unnecessarily butchered the look and feel of Thunderbird to the point where people are switching to forks.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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It is such a shame where Firefox is and is headed these days. It could have been a browser for the people, instead it's an advertising machine, similar to Chrome.

Icecat/Iceweasel are sane alternatives.

Unofficial binaries can be found:

https://icecatbrowser.org/download.html

Official source: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnuzilla.git

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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post #243

Please let whoever steers Thunderbird development and road map also steer Firefox. Thunderbird is at the moment the pinnacle of user-centered, focused and down-to-earth development of open-source software.

Can I replace Outlook yet?

I don’t buy the “oh well, kinda sort of for like 60% of mail features and possibly a read only calendar in Two Weeks”

I switched away from Thunderbird to Outlook TWO FULL DECADES AGO, and in that time they have never once given me a possibility to switch back.

Like it or not, business runs on Office/Outlook.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Do it. It's the only truly independent browser left. It's not perfect, but it works, and unlike Chrome you can have full ad blocking with uBlock Origin.

With Brave you can have ad blocking built into the browser itself and not have to depend on a third party developer.

I would argue that third party developer is more reliable and trustworthy than both Brave and Mozilla

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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I wonder what sort of user testing made them decide that what Firefox users really need is a chat bot in the site bar. Isn't a chat bot in a tab good enough? And calling translation "AI" seems like deceitful retroactive rebranding. Why is machine translation suddenly "AI" now ? It was never branded as such before. Is "AI" here just used to mean machine learning?

The word artificial intelligence was coined in a 1955 research proposal [1] which listed seven aspects of the "artificial intelligence problem". Computers using languages was one of them. Another is "neuron nets", which would indeed encompass a large part of ML and at least Google Translate since circa 2016 [2]. This is also perfectly in line with how the word AI was used until circa 2022. The weird thing is this nar…

> This is also perfectly in line with how the word AI was used until circa 2022.

show me a screenshot or link of one website or app using AI to mean machine translation from prior to 2022, AI has re-entered the lexicon covering anything from an algorithm to Sora. if anything its broadened, not narrowed in scope. me and you might mean transformer when we say AI, but the average speaker doesnt make that distinction. they call video sites "social media", so can you really be surprised they dont quite use AI correctly either?

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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> Firefox market share has been going downhill for most of my life Firefox market shares are the best of any non OEM browser[1] and is beating competition from a number of OEM browser (like Samsung's one on mobile) and is fairly competitive compared to the desktop version of Safari (only 1% below on desktop market share). Yes market share have been going downhill but mostly because they were abnormaly high for someth…

Chrome built its market share as a non-OEM browser, and to this day, it's only an OEM browser on Android yet it dominates the desktop browser space.

> Chrome built its market share as a non-OEM browse

while being advertised on every single web search on the biggest search engine at the time. You couldn't miss the invitation to install it at the time as it was shown to your face several times a day if you were using google.

> it's only an OEM browser on Android

Which is the biggest computing device platform in term of market share and has been for a while. Once people had associated "internet" or "web" with "google" and "chrome" it was game over for everyone else.

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