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Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by prmoustache »

raybb wrote: post #85
sickmartian wrote: post #32

Great, let's see how it works out. Firefox for Android has been killing it for me with the latest ux updates, I didn't expect major improvements there and was pleasantly surprised.

This UI is great but do you get this horrible thing where sometimes the browser is shows a white screen and you have to force stop the app? Happens all the time on the latest version for my Pixel 9a. And did on my Pixel 7 too before. It's really horrible and I can't pin down any rhythm or reason other than loosely seeming to happen more often when I'm in battery saver mode.

I don't have that on fenec and ironfox on my pixel 6a running graphene.

What I have always had with any firefox based browser on android is erratic behavior in text field. Most of the time it works well but sometimes on some commenting systems my input is duplicated/multiplicated/garbled, trying to select where you want to insert words in the middle of the sentence sometimes becomes impossible, always resetting to the beginning of the text field, etc.

On some websites it only rarely happens, on some it is much more regular. Never understod why but when I want to edit a comment I have to resort on a regular basis to copy the full comment to a note app, edit the text, and replace it in its entirety in the text field.

Super annoying but still less annoying than using a chrome based browser with no way to remove ads and have a bit of privacy control.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by [deleted] »

mort96 wrote: post #131
mrklol wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox mentions the following ones: "- Translations, which help you browse the web in your preferred language. - Alt text in PDFs, which add accessibility descriptions to images in PDF pages. - AI-enhanced tab grouping, which suggests related tabs and group names. - Link previews, which show key points before you open a link. - AI chatbot in the sidebar, which lets you use your chosen chatbot as you browse, includin…

I wonder what sort of user testing made them decide that what Firefox users really need is a chat bot in the site bar. Isn't a chat bot in a tab good enough? And calling translation "AI" seems like deceitful retroactive rebranding. Why is machine translation suddenly "AI" now ? It was never branded as such before. Is "AI" here just used to mean machine learning?

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Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by prmoustache »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #135
godelski wrote: post #84

Firefox does what some people want, people complain. Firefox does what other people want, people complain. Firefox does what both people want, people complain. I'm sorry, but we'll never get corporations to do what we want if we don't throw them the smallest bone when we get our way. You need positive reinforcement too, not just negative. If it's all negative they just stop caring and you get companies lot Google who…

The reason people complain is because Mozilla claims it's better and more pure than everybody else.

> people complain is because Mozilla claims it's better

Well they are far from perfect but experience has shown that everybody else is worse.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by hermanzegerman »

aryonoco wrote: post #273
hermanzegerman wrote: post #263

I would prefer it, if the basics, like being able to use your Webcam would work. That's broken for a while now on Fedora/Linux

Used my webcam just fine multiple times today on Fedora Silverblue.

I'm using the Standard Mutable Version. But maybe I should try replacing the shipped Firefox, with the Flatpak one.

Right now I'm switching to Chromium for Video Calls, which I hate

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by stevekemp »

carschno wrote: post #215

The page seems to be a copy from the original Mozilla press release from February 2nd: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/ It was discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46858492

Yeah flagged as a spammy source.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by prmoustache »

mort96 wrote: post #125
godelski wrote: post #84

Firefox does what some people want, people complain. Firefox does what other people want, people complain. Firefox does what both people want, people complain. I'm sorry, but we'll never get corporations to do what we want if we don't throw them the smallest bone when we get our way. You need positive reinforcement too, not just negative. If it's all negative they just stop caring and you get companies lot Google who…

Who has expressed a desire for Firefox to become "an AI browser"? Because that's the source of the complaints. I don't want to use an "AI browser", kill switch or not. If this "AI browser" dies because of their mission to destroy community goodwill, good. I'm sick of giving the benefit of the doubt every time they royally fuck up. This situation where they're the steward of the only non-Google browser is not tenable,…

Is it so hard to understand that the features person A wants are not necessarily the same as person B yet a company/foundation would be interested in providing a complete featureset for both A and B?

I don't need themes nor having my url bar serving search. I am not interested in an AI agent in my browser yet I welcome traduction features, do I have to shit on every company developping a software that has some features because I don't want them?

I am much more pragmatic: are these features easy to ignore/disable, do they largely increase the resources needed (disk, memory, cpu) even when not used, do these introduce bloat, etc.

I wasn't interested in pocket, I was just using a combination of firefox forks or disabling it on the devices I was using. That is the whole point of open source software.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by NoboruWataya »

mhher wrote: post #278

Am I the only one who absolutely adores the local based translation feature? I use it regularly and its so good.

Yes, I really like it. I wish they let extensions access it directly but it seems they don't (yet, at least). I'm also a bit surprised more hasn't been done to distribute it separately as a command line tool as I think something like that would be very helpful. I have seen a couple of attempts to put a CLI wrapper around it but they are third-party and seem to not be well maintained or documented.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by andrewshadura »

raybb wrote: post #85
sickmartian wrote: post #32

Great, let's see how it works out. Firefox for Android has been killing it for me with the latest ux updates, I didn't expect major improvements there and was pleasantly surprised.

This UI is great but do you get this horrible thing where sometimes the browser is shows a white screen and you have to force stop the app? Happens all the time on the latest version for my Pixel 9a. And did on my Pixel 7 too before. It's really horrible and I can't pin down any rhythm or reason other than loosely seeming to happen more often when I'm in battery saver mode.

Happens to me all the time in PWAs. I get it roughly once in two days, sometimes a few times a day.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by manphone »

altairprime wrote: post #150
themafia wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> will also be users who have disabled Firefox metrics collection and so will not have their opinion counted. Gee. If only there was a way to collect users opinions on things. Welp.. guess we have to live with subtly spying on everything they do with our software.

Arguing that telemetry is wrong doesn’t seem to have stopped Firefox from using it. If your fight against telemetry is a higher priority than your fight against AI in the browser, good luck and more power to you! I’m just making sure no one makes that decision by accident .

This isn’t about a fight between two things. This is about a company that completely refuses to listen to their users and then some random guy on the Internet who says you should deal with their telemetry to somehow fix the problem that in no way relates to the actual problem and no way has evidence that they would take steps to fix the problem either. It’s very prosocial to think that Firefox actually makes changes based on user feedback, but almost none of these features have users been clamoring for, this is totally executive bullshit pushed into the product.
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