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Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by eqvinox »

shevy-java wrote: post #18
bartvk wrote: post #7

Firefox is the only holdout against the ad companies, and I'm counting Microsoft amongst those. It's a very good browser, independent with its own renderer, with decent ad blocking and decent performance. It continually amazes me how people use a Google product on their desktop, as if they don't send enough data to an ad company. Actually, I'm not sure why I type this, any rational arguments are definitely not winnin…

In theory you are not incorrect, but Google bribes Firefox and Google makes most money via ads. Mozilla gave up on firefox a long time ago. > It continually amazes me how people use a Google product on their desktop, as if they don't send enough data to an ad company. I'd love to have alternatives, but which ones are there? Firefox is not an alternative; audio does not work for me as I am pulseaudio free here. On chr…

You made the decision to "pulseaudio free" your system, why do you expect others to fix issues arising from that decision of yours for you?

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by [deleted] »

debugnik wrote: post #77
jahsome wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I envy the worldview it's possible someone can take money from another and still maintain independence. What's up with the straw men?

> What's up with the avalanche of straw men? Poor quality comments lead to poor quality replies. I won't deny mine is as well.

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Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by godelski »

Firefox does what some people want, people complain. Firefox does what other people want, people complain. Firefox does what both people want, people complain.

I'm sorry, but we'll never get corporations to do what we want if we don't throw them the smallest bone when we get our way. You need positive reinforcement too, not just negative. If it's all negative they just stop caring and you get companies lot Google who just don't give a shit anymore.

And yes, there are some AI features I like and I want in the browser. I get a lot of utility out of translation as well as semantic search of my history. I don't want agents in my browser but get, Firefox is giving us choices.

Look, no one needs to like Firefox, but let's also be honest, it's the best we got right now. Google, Apple, and Microsoft are shoving agents down our throats and putting us in walled gardens that are getting harder and harder to break from. I don't care what flavor of chromium you use, Google is still using it to control the way the web works. Everyone loves to say how chromium is has greater coverage of standards but never takes a second to question who sets those standards.

I'm sorry guys, that's the state of things now. You can't fight Google by switching to chromium. It's still their vehicle to eat the internet. Our choices right now are Safari, Firefox, and maybe ladybird. It's slim pickings and nothing is close to perfect. At this point it doesn't even matter if Mozilla is evil, because at least they're the enemy of our enemy. Google is keeping them on life support to avoid monopoly claims but how long will they need that?

So what, we're just going to hand the keys of the kingdom to the guys selling artisian turd sandwiches because what, there isn't enough mayo on your ham sandwich? Because you don't like ham?

We got a win. Celebrate. Take the break from being cynical. There's bigger battles to fight and there'll be more tomorrow. Take the night off and don't be a sore winner

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by raybb »

sickmartian wrote: post #32

Great, let's see how it works out. Firefox for Android has been killing it for me with the latest ux updates, I didn't expect major improvements there and was pleasantly surprised.

This UI is great but do you get this horrible thing where sometimes the browser is shows a white screen and you have to force stop the app? Happens all the time on the latest version for my Pixel 9a. And did on my Pixel 7 too before. It's really horrible and I can't pin down any rhythm or reason other than loosely seeming to happen more often when I'm in battery saver mode.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by orthoxerox »

This is great news. I recently updated AMD Adrenalin, and the "minimal" version doesn't let you change the distribution of unified RAM on Strix Halo. I installed the "full" version, and it wanted me to install a 10GB "local AI assistant" to "help" me configure it. When I opened the program, it showed me a non-dismissable fake chat that occupied 25% of the screen, prompting me to click it and replace it with a real one.

I remember when every other software prompted you to install Bonzi Buddy or some other intrusive search bar. This AI push is even worse.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by TeMPOraL »

ori_b wrote: post #58
CorrectHorseBat wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not all bad is it? On device translation of websites for example is much better than the alternatives.

Until very recently, on device translation was not marketed as AI.

On device or not, it's a transformer model, so some view it as tainted.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by crote »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #47
snowhale wrote: post #42

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Thing is, there's a large (or at least certainly vocal) contingent of users (and mostly techies, to boot) that view "AI" as the Devil, and transformer models as the original sin, and they want to refuse to partake, wholesale. This feature seems to be a nod to people with this worldview. EDIT: See e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47133786 liking AI features to defecating on your food. It's not a technical obj…

And that's in turn because product managers keep calling everything "AI" and shoving the bad kind in every feature they possibly can.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by usefulposter »

p_ing wrote: post #79
usefulposter wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47077431 , by dang, 4 days ago: All: (1) Generated comments aren't allowed on HN - this rule predates LLMs but obviously applies even more now: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20%22generated%20comments%22&sort=byDate&type=comment (2) If you see accounts that look like they're mostly posting genAI comments, please let us know at hn@ycombinat…

Structure-wise, that comment is not great. Why do you think it’s AI — simply because of a dash of flavor?

Click on the profile.

Read every comment made since the account started posting again.

Tell me what you think about those comments.

Re: Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements

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Post by jahsome »

debugnik wrote: post #77
jahsome wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I envy the worldview it's possible someone can take money from another and still maintain independence. What's up with the straw men?

> What's up with the avalanche of straw men? Poor quality comments lead to poor quality replies. I won't deny mine is as well.

Can you explain how openly admiring someone's idealism is of "low quality"?
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