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Mexican Forces Kill Nation's Most-Wanted Cartel Boss
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#32Re: Mexican Forces Kill Nation's Most-Wanted Cartel Boss
#33Puerto Vallarta is on fire - seeing tons of videos on my timeline.
Apparently as "retaliation" from the cartel because their boss was killed. Where do you draw the line? At what point do you decide to go full El Salvador / Bukele on violent cartel members who are willing to put cities on fire when they cannot human and drug traffic at will? When is enough enough?
> At what point do you decide to go full El Salvador / Bukele on violent cartel members who are willing to put cities on fire when they cannot human and drug traffic at will?
The point for doing that was some time ago. It's like Islamists. They're so sophisticated that it makes more sense for governments to treat them like foreign military threats than domestic police issues. Don't listen to the "human rights" people in developed countries that became safe and stable by doing these exact same tactics hundreds of years ago.
In Bangladesh in 2016, there was a terrorist attack in a cafe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_2016_Dhaka_attack. The government then went full Bukele on the Islamists. There hasn't been a significant terrorist attack in the country since then.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
* Says Mexicans can't be POCs * * Calls me a neo-nazi * fantastic
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JasonADrury: I mean fuck, the silly European me thought that Mexicans were mostly white. They sure as hell mostly look like Europeans to me.
djohnston: * Says Mexicans can't be POCs *
DJ really overstated it, but yes: you are a silly European. Most Mexicans have a substantial Native American heritage, and aren't considered "white" by most USians. The richer Mexicans you may have encountered traveling to Europe are more upperclass whitebre(a)d, mostly Spanish bloodlines.
djohnston: * Calls me a neo-nazi *
JasonADrury: > Is this some weird neo-Nazi trope you subscribe to?
You are guilty as charged.
DJ's reading comprehension is fine.
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#35Re: Mexican Forces Kill Nation's Most-Wanted Cartel Boss
#36Puerto Vallarta is on fire - seeing tons of videos on my timeline.
Apparently as "retaliation" from the cartel because their boss was killed. Where do you draw the line? At what point do you decide to go full El Salvador / Bukele on violent cartel members who are willing to put cities on fire when they cannot human and drug traffic at will? When is enough enough?
> Part of Bukele’s truce is to allow gangs to run their networks within the prisons, while their wealth and power remain untouched. In exchange, they have to keep homicides and violent crimes down. The leader of Barrio 18, one of the country’s two most powerful gangs, also alleges that they helped Bukele rise to power directly.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> justified retaliation I don’t see how it would be justified. Do you think the cartels are in the right here?
> Do you think the cartels are in the right here? Of course not, none of the sides are at all in the right here. But from the cartels perspective, they're almost certainly in the right. Drug cartels are entirely the result of poor policies, and the blame for all the harms caused by them rests primarily on the shoulders of those perpetuating those policies. Surely the politicians that vote for laws that directly enabl…
Drug cartels are entirely the result of poor policies, one of which is that the Mexican government has not been punishing the cartels. Maybe they're fixing that.
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#38Re: Mexican Forces Kill Nation's Most-Wanted Cartel Boss
#39As long as Mexico shares a border with the US the biggest consumer of such recreational drugs and poverty in Mexico there will always be drug cartels. It is basically whack-a-mole killing or imprisoning cartel heads - there will be splinter factions and you will just get three just as nasty ones in it's place.
Agreed, it’s a demand-side problem. The profit potential is so great that someone will smuggle drugs into the US, no matter the risk.
There's always huge demand for illegal things, doesn't mean a such a powerful market forms
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who is absolving the cartels of their crimes?
You said something like "nobody is in the right here" and called the cartel response a "justified retaliation"
Government obviously isn't in the right when it simultaneously continues perpetuating policies that ensure the continued existence of the cartels.