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Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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axx wrote: post #30
georgespencer wrote: post #16

There's so much about this which is disingenuous. I'm not surprised by this, but it's worth pointing out some of the tricks Amazon are employing here: 1. Much More for Much Less. Much More is obviously the kindle fire HD, and Much Less is the iPad Mini. Heck, if you remove the 'f' of 'for' you get to the central point here which is to turn the choice into 'Much More or Much Less'. 2. Kindle Fire HD branding is used (…

Don't tell us about "false marketing" on amazons side. Did you notice how Phil Schiller showed the iMac on Stage? He always talked about how thin it is and how incredible but he never showed the thicker part of the iMac. Also noticed that Apple ALWAYS showed every iMac from the side on there website? Since the new iMac, there is only a 20° angle to the iMac, so you can only see the thin border, but not the thicker pa…

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Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

eigenvector wrote: post #12

The iPad Mini's far from impressive DPI is no doubt the result of Apple not wanting to introduce another resolution into the iOS ecosystem (the Mini's resolution previously appeared on iPad 1 and 2). I don't think they were cutting costs with this panel, rather, you are seeing the non-resolution-independent iOS chickens coming home to roost as software limitations begin to hold back hardware innovation. Apple needs t…

There are two other major reasons they'll have gone for the lower resolution:

1) Power consumption - the retina display drains a lot of power (and handling the higher resolution requires a better processor which contributes further). This means a bigger battery, which means a larger and heavier device which kind of goes against the point of the iPad mini.

2) Price - It seems that one of Apple's key business goals with the iPad mini is to bring the lowest entry point of the iPad down. Retina displays a going add cost which means Apple would have to go in at a higher price point - kind of undermining the whole thing.

Apple have optimised for size and price and while I'm sure they'd have loved to have a retina display on the iPad mini, the trade offs they've made are consistent with the aims they have.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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Post by neya »

rimantas wrote: post #57
neya wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently read an article on HN wherein a user posted asking all of us to be 'civil'. This is the reason why HN isn't so civil. You like a product, you try to support as if you created it and as if the company cares for you, while in reality the company doesn't care about you and you're just doing free marketing for them. Not to say that you can't defend what you like, but most of what you've written here is very ve…

> How the fuck can it be the 'fastest' while > high-performance quadcore chips were long released > even before this phone came into existence? Indeed how? How was scrolling on the first iPhone smoother than on current android devices running on said quad core chips? How about understanding that processor power is not all there is? > So may I kindly request you to cut the crap and stop the bias and avoid > provoking…

How was scrolling on the first iPhone smoother than on current android devices running on said quad core chips?

This explains your in-depth knowledge of what processors and their comparisons really mean.

Thank you

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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Post by JeremyBanks »

Shivetya wrote: post #46
axx wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't tell us about "false marketing" on amazons side. Did you notice how Phil Schiller showed the iMac on Stage? He always talked about how thin it is and how incredible but he never showed the thicker part of the iMac. Also noticed that Apple ALWAYS showed every iMac from the side on there website? Since the new iMac, there is only a 20° angle to the iMac, so you can only see the thin border, but not the thicker pa…

Check out the iMac gallery on the Apple Store, the fifth and sixth pictures show a side view. I would expect the show they put on to only provide the best views of their products but at least you can find better pictures on their site.

I'm pretty sure they've included side views in their main product galleries before.

I've looked at the previous lines, but I was surprised (and entirely lost interest in the product when it was clear they weren't willing to present it honestly) when this gallery was so misleadingly shot.

Steve Would Never Have Let It Happen®.

Seriously, their main selling point is "it's so thin" and they won't even show us how thin it is? That's not clever marketing, that's idiotic.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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Post by TopTrix »

georgespencer wrote: post #16

There's so much about this which is disingenuous. I'm not surprised by this, but it's worth pointing out some of the tricks Amazon are employing here: 1. Much More for Much Less. Much More is obviously the kindle fire HD, and Much Less is the iPad Mini. Heck, if you remove the 'f' of 'for' you get to the central point here which is to turn the choice into 'Much More or Much Less'. 2. Kindle Fire HD branding is used (…

At first place, I thought you are Apple representative. Why are you so aggressive?

These are the marketing tactics and do you thing Apple have never done this before?

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

chucknelson wrote: post #54
georgespencer wrote: post #16

There's so much about this which is disingenuous. I'm not surprised by this, but it's worth pointing out some of the tricks Amazon are employing here: 1. Much More for Much Less. Much More is obviously the kindle fire HD, and Much Less is the iPad Mini. Heck, if you remove the 'f' of 'for' you get to the central point here which is to turn the choice into 'Much More or Much Less'. 2. Kindle Fire HD branding is used (…

Does anyone know where this "No HD movies or TV" thing is coming from? Can the iPad mini not play 720p content or something? A link to where this is stated would be helpful.

I'm sure it can play an HD movie if that's the file you have, just the screen resolution is such that it won't appear as HD to your eyes.

But this post is a wonderful example of the sort of doubt Amazon will be very happy to have spread as a result of the ads.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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Post by chucknelson »

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #66
chucknelson wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone know where this "No HD movies or TV" thing is coming from? Can the iPad mini not play 720p content or something? A link to where this is stated would be helpful.

I'm sure it can play an HD movie if that's the file you have, just the screen resolution is such that it won't appear as HD to your eyes. But this post is a wonderful example of the sort of doubt Amazon will be very happy to have spread as a result of the ads.

So Amazon is just saying that 720p is not HD enough? They have decided to define HD as high-dpi screens only all of a sudden? I guess it goes with their branding, but yeah, totally misleading.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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Post by engtech »

chucknelson wrote: post #54
georgespencer wrote: post #16

There's so much about this which is disingenuous. I'm not surprised by this, but it's worth pointing out some of the tricks Amazon are employing here: 1. Much More for Much Less. Much More is obviously the kindle fire HD, and Much Less is the iPad Mini. Heck, if you remove the 'f' of 'for' you get to the central point here which is to turn the choice into 'Much More or Much Less'. 2. Kindle Fire HD branding is used (…

Does anyone know where this "No HD movies or TV" thing is coming from? Can the iPad mini not play 720p content or something? A link to where this is stated would be helpful.

They're probably using 1080P as the definition of HD.

The last time I looked at buying a movie in iTunes, the max resolution they sold was 720P.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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Post by chris_wot »

neya wrote: post #50
georgespencer wrote: post #16

There's so much about this which is disingenuous. I'm not surprised by this, but it's worth pointing out some of the tricks Amazon are employing here: 1. Much More for Much Less. Much More is obviously the kindle fire HD, and Much Less is the iPad Mini. Heck, if you remove the 'f' of 'for' you get to the central point here which is to turn the choice into 'Much More or Much Less'. 2. Kindle Fire HD branding is used (…

I recently read an article on HN wherein a user posted asking all of us to be 'civil'. This is the reason why HN isn't so civil. You like a product, you try to support as if you created it and as if the company cares for you, while in reality the company doesn't care about you and you're just doing free marketing for them. Not to say that you can't defend what you like, but most of what you've written here is very ve…

You know, your whole post coud be rewritten as:

A lot of what you have written here is quite subjective, and in fact you could mount a case that Apple's marketing team do the same sort if things as has been demonstrated by Amazon.

There is no need to flame the original poster. Please reconsider whether the last three sentences were necessary to contribute to the conversation here at HN. In my opinion, they were needlessly inflammatory.

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