Live data from Hacker News

Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

amazon.com

21–30 of 213 posts

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

#22

When you're a Microsoft, an Apple or a Google you have the money to create something truly epic - and none of them have. The Surface has great design, as do all of Apple's products. However the Surface, while having the potential for great software, comes with something not quite finished. So while it's eminently usable as it is, it falls short of greatness. The iPad Mini, similarly, has the quality one expects from…

I think they are all epic in their own way.

Especially in the case of the Surface - it's the first version of the product! The original iOS and Android devices all had crappy or non-existant app stores when they were launched, and were plagued with problems and limitations.

Similarly, for the right use-cases iPad Mini and the Nexus tablets are epic, and many people adore them.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

#23

I believe that what Gizmodo says is actually true and something that Apple "forgot" to mention when comparing(highlight the "good" things while omitting all the other things) the Nexus 7 with their new iPad so I do not blame Amazon for pointing it out to a wider public. If Apple wants to play this game, they must be ready to get fought back. EDIT: also, I still have no idea why isn't that thing Retina. I mean, they h…

Re: Retina display ...

I would guess it's battery. My iPad 3 is heavy yet the battery life is significantly lower than my iPad 1 (and it takes ages to charge).

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

#24
post #7

I believe that what Gizmodo says is actually true and something that Apple "forgot" to mention when comparing(highlight the "good" things while omitting all the other things) the Nexus 7 with their new iPad so I do not blame Amazon for pointing it out to a wider public. If Apple wants to play this game, they must be ready to get fought back. EDIT: also, I still have no idea why isn't that thing Retina. I mean, they h…

I suspect Mini "2" will have Retina.

yeah, so all the idiots ran to the next apple store to replace their one year old iPad mini FINALLY!!11 with a Retina one. I HUGE INNOVATION IN DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY!

I was an Apple "Fanboy" for years, and all my computers are macs, but from time to time i get the feeling i need to switch to Unix or something else...

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

#25
post #18

The iPad Mini's far from impressive DPI is no doubt the result of Apple not wanting to introduce another resolution into the iOS ecosystem (the Mini's resolution previously appeared on iPad 1 and 2). I don't think they were cutting costs with this panel, rather, you are seeing the non-resolution-independent iOS chickens coming home to roost as software limitations begin to hold back hardware innovation. Apple needs t…

[deleted]

You are correct that 326 dpi would also have been an option, but while we've seen lots of, say, 1280x800 panels in the wild at the Mini's price point or lower, I have no idea what the pricing of a 2048x1536 panel would look like. As you note it would probably be substantially more expensive.

This just highlights why dpi independence is important - if your only option to raise dpi is to double it, that's not particularly helpful unless you only plan on improving the dpi every other year when costs have fallen sufficiently.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

#26

I believe that what Gizmodo says is actually true and something that Apple "forgot" to mention when comparing(highlight the "good" things while omitting all the other things) the Nexus 7 with their new iPad so I do not blame Amazon for pointing it out to a wider public. If Apple wants to play this game, they must be ready to get fought back. EDIT: also, I still have no idea why isn't that thing Retina. I mean, they h…

* why isn't that thing Retina. I mean, they have putted it on everything, iPhone, iPad and Air, why not this?

Air does not have Retina.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

#27

I believe that what Gizmodo says is actually true and something that Apple "forgot" to mention when comparing(highlight the "good" things while omitting all the other things) the Nexus 7 with their new iPad so I do not blame Amazon for pointing it out to a wider public. If Apple wants to play this game, they must be ready to get fought back. EDIT: also, I still have no idea why isn't that thing Retina. I mean, they h…

It's probably battery life. The Retina iPad has a battery that's nearly twice as big as the iPad 2 and iPad mini and it's mostly to drive that screen.

I believe that the power requirements are down to the number of pixels more than the size.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

#28

The iPad Mini's far from impressive DPI is no doubt the result of Apple not wanting to introduce another resolution into the iOS ecosystem (the Mini's resolution previously appeared on iPad 1 and 2). I don't think they were cutting costs with this panel, rather, you are seeing the non-resolution-independent iOS chickens coming home to roost as software limitations begin to hold back hardware innovation. Apple needs t…

If I had to guess, I would say that the resolution dependence has been a major contributing factor to the high UI/UX quality in iOS applications. Yes, there are other aspects to consider, but this single design decision has a lot of benefits to developers.

It's definitely a major contributor to the simple fact that iOS apps, on average, look a whole lot better than Android apps. That being said, it's a burden on Apple hardware designers that will only increase with time.

It's a tough decision if there is an elegant solution out there, I can only hope that Apple is already working on it.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

#29
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've proven that you can sell at that price, but not that you can make money at that price. Time will tell.

Their profit isn't from the hardware sale, but from the media/apps thereafter.

It's an interesting model that makes them a real threat to both Apple and Android/WinRT based manufacturers. Cheap high quality tablets sold at cost with a great ecosystem behind it.

Of their competitors, only Apple both makes the hardware and has the ecosystem, and they will never beat Amazon on price.

They aren't going to take over the whole market, but I can see them getting a good sized chunk of it.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

#30

There's so much about this which is disingenuous. I'm not surprised by this, but it's worth pointing out some of the tricks Amazon are employing here: 1. Much More for Much Less. Much More is obviously the kindle fire HD, and Much Less is the iPad Mini. Heck, if you remove the 'f' of 'for' you get to the central point here which is to turn the choice into 'Much More or Much Less'. 2. Kindle Fire HD branding is used (…

Don't tell us about "false marketing" on amazons side.

Did you notice how Phil Schiller showed the iMac on Stage? He always talked about how thin it is and how incredible but he never showed the thicker part of the iMac.

Also noticed that Apple ALWAYS showed every iMac from the side on there website? Since the new iMac, there is only a 20° angle to the iMac, so you can only see the thin border, but not the thicker part behind it.

Oh, btw: have fun with your iPad mini.

Post reply on HN