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Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by dlt713705 »

altmanaltman wrote: post #50
mattlondon wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think for me it is an agent that runs on some schedule, checks some sort of inbox (or not) and does things based on that. Optionally it has all of your credentials for email, PayPal, whatever so that it can do things on your behalf. Basically cron-for-agents. Before we had to go prompt an agent to do something right now but this allows them to be async, with more of a YOLO-outlook on permissions to use your creds,…

Definitely interesting but i mean giving it all my credentials feels not right. Is there a safe way to do so?

In a VM or a separate host with access to specific credentials in a very limited purpose.

In any case, the data that will be provided to the agent must be considered compromised and/or having been leaked.

My 2 cents.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by wepple »

password54321 wrote: post #56
onion2k wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://karpathy.ai/ PHD in neural networks under Fei-Fei Li, founder of OpenAI, director of AI at Tesla, etc. He knows what he's talking about.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by isuckatcoding »

altmanaltman wrote: post #50
mattlondon wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think for me it is an agent that runs on some schedule, checks some sort of inbox (or not) and does things based on that. Optionally it has all of your credentials for email, PayPal, whatever so that it can do things on your behalf. Basically cron-for-agents. Before we had to go prompt an agent to do something right now but this allows them to be async, with more of a YOLO-outlook on permissions to use your creds,…

Definitely interesting but i mean giving it all my credentials feels not right. Is there a safe way to do so?

Ideally workflow would be some kind of Oauth with token expirations and some kind of mobile notification for refresh

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by avaer »

onion2k wrote: post #58
password54321 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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While I appreciate an appeal to authority is a logical fallacy, you can't really use that to ignore everyone's experience and expertise. Sometimes people who have a huge amount of experience and knowledge on a subject do actually make a valid point, and their authority on the subject is enough to make them worth listening to.

But we're talking about authority of naming things being justified by a tech resume.

It's as irrelevant as George Foreman naming the grill.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by sa-code »

ggrab wrote: post #53

IMO the security pitchforking on OpenClaw is just so overdone. People without consideration for the implications will inevitably get burned, as we saw with the reddit posts "Agentic Coding tool X wiped my hard drive and apologized profusely". I work at a FAANG and every time you try something innovative the "policy people" will climb out of their holes and put random roadblocks in your way, not for the sake of actual…

> every time you try something innovative the "policy people" will climb out of their holes and put random roadblocks in your way

This is so relatable. I remember trying to set up an LLM gateway back in 2023. There were at least 3 different teams that blocked our rollout for months until they worked through their backlog. "We're blocking you, but you’ll have to chase and nag us for us to even consider unblocking you"

At the end of all that waiting, nothing changed. Each of those teams wrote a document saying they had a look and were presumably just happy to be involved somehow?

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by password54321 »

wepple wrote: post #62
password54321 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

Not claiming anything to be false, just a reminder that you should question ones opinion a bit more and not claim they "know what they are talking about" because they worked with Fei-Fei Li. You are outsourcing your thinking to someone else which is lazy and a good way of getting conned.

What even happened to https://eurekalabs.ai/?

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by onion2k »

avaer wrote: post #65
onion2k wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I appreciate an appeal to authority is a logical fallacy, you can't really use that to ignore everyone's experience and expertise. Sometimes people who have a huge amount of experience and knowledge on a subject do actually make a valid point, and their authority on the subject is enough to make them worth listening to.

But we're talking about authority of naming things being justified by a tech resume. It's as irrelevant as George Foreman naming the grill.

Naming things in the context of AI, by someone who is already responsible for naming other things in the context of AI, when they have a lot of valid experience in the field of AI. It's not entirely unreasonable.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by fxj »

He also talks about picoclaw which even runs on $10 hardware and is a fork by sipeed, a chinese company who does IoT.

https://github.com/sipeed/picoclaw

another chinese coompany m5stack provides local LLMs like Qwen2.5-1.5B running on a local IoT device.

https://shop.m5stack.com/products/m5stack-llm-large-language...

Imagine the possibilities. Soon we will see claw-in-a-box for less than $50.

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