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Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by raincole »

minimaxir wrote: post #58
sawjet wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with using X?

In the case you are asking in good faith, a) X requires logging in to view most of its content, which means that much of your audience will not see the news because b) much of your audience is not on X, either due to not having social media or have stopped using X due to its degradation to put it generally.

I'm not signed in but I can view the above linked tweet just fine.

Plus it's not a real clarification in anyway. It's just PR. Even if it's posted on Mastodon or Github or anywhere, I highly doubt you can use it to defend yourself if you get banned from violating their ToS.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by hedora »

minimaxir wrote: post #92
exabrial wrote: post #77

The number one thing we need is cheap abundant decentralized clean energy, and these things are laughable. Unfortunately neither political party can get all of the above.

Are you implying that no one would use LLM SaaSes and everyone would self-host if energy costs were negligible? That is...not how it works. People self-hosting don't look at their electricity bill.

I was stuck on the part where they said neither party could provide cheap abundant decentralized clean energy. Biden / Obama did a great job of providing those things, to the point where dirty coal and natural gas are both more expensive than solar or wind.

So, which two parties could they be referring to? The Republicans and the Freedom Caucus?

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by theLiminator »

adastra22 wrote: post #36
artdigital wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s very clearly a no, I don’t understand why so many people think this is unclear. You can’t use Claude OAuth tokens for anything. Any solution that exists worked because it pretended/spoofed to be Claude Code. Same for Gemini (Gemini CLI, Antigravity) Codex is the only one that got official blessing to be used in OpenClaw and OpenCode, and even that was against the ToS before they changed their stance on it.

Is Codex ok with any other third party applications, or just those?

Interested to know this too

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by minimaxir »

hedora wrote: post #93
minimaxir wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the case you are asking in good faith, a) X requires logging in to view most of its content, which means that much of your audience will not see the news because b) much of your audience is not on X, either due to not having social media or have stopped using X due to its degradation to put it generally.

c) it is controlled by a direct competitor and can bury / promote your customer communication at will.

Elon has enough sense not to cross that particular bridge.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by eru »

JimmaDaRustla wrote: post #91
sambull wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The secret is there is no path on making that back.

My crude metaphor to explain to my family is gasoline has just been invented and we're all being lent Bentley's to get us addicted to driving everywhere. Eventually we won't be given free Bentley's, and someone is going to be holding the bag when the infinite money machine finally has a hiccup. The tech giants are hoping their gasoline is the one that we all crave when we're left depending on driving everywhere and t…

Why? Computers and anything computer related have historically been dropping in prices like crazy year after year (with only very occasional hiccups). What makes you think this will stop now?

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by raincole »

slopinthebag wrote: post #69
Uehreka wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how can they even enforce this? Many ways, and they’re under no obligation to play fair and tell you which way they’re using at any given time. They’ve said what the rules are, they’ve said they’ll ban you if they catch you. So let’s say they enforce it by adding an extra nonstandard challenge-response handshake at the beginning of the exchange, which generates a token which they’ll expect on all requests going for…

the internet has hundreds of thousands of super smart coders with the most powerful ai models as well, I think it's a bit harder than you're assuming. you just need to inspect the network traffic with Claude code and mimic that

If your service's traffic is literally indistinguishable from Claude Code, then all it can do is what Claude Code does. Then why are the users going to choose your service instead of Claude Code?

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by ac29 »

sambull wrote: post #94
vicchenai wrote: post #83

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these subscriptions have limits.. how could someone use $200 worth on $20/month.. is that not the issue with the limits they set on a $20 plan, and couldn't a claude code user use that same $200 worth on $20/month? (and how do i do this?)

The usage limit on your $20/month subscription is not $20 of API tokens (if it was, why subscribe?). Its much much higher, and you can hit the equivalent of $20 of API usage in a few days.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by mattas »

paxys wrote: post #31

I don't think it's a secret that AI companies are losing a ton of money on subscription plans. Hence the stricter rate limits, new $200+ plans, push towards advertising etc. The real money is in per-token billing via the API (and large companies having enough AI FOMO that they blindly pay the enormous invoices every month).

The question I have: how much are they _also_ losing on per-token billing?

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by hedora »

beoberha wrote: post #55
renewiltord wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Harder to get at the Apple ecosystem. I have an old Macbook that just serves my reminders over the internet.

who knows when Apple decides to enter the game, but they will absolutely crush the personal agent market when they do.

Apple has been doing personal agents for a while. They're crushing it so hard they must be tired of winning at this point.

For instance, the other day, the Siri button in maps told me it couldn't start navigation because it didn't know where it was. It was animating a blue dot with my real time position at the same time.

Don't get me started about the new iOS 26 notification and messaging filters. Those are causing real harm multiple times a day.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by hackingonempty »

scwoodal wrote: post #79

Why does it matter to Anthropic if my $200 plan usage is coming from Claude Code or a third party? Doesn’t both count towards my usage limits the same?

Increasing the friction of switching providers as much as possible is part of their strategy to push users to higher subscription tiers and deny even scraps to their competitors.
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