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GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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haskman wrote: post #235

Been running GrapheneOS for a while on a Pixel 9, and extremely happy with it! Apart from the usual perks of the FOSS ecosystem, there are a few things specific to GrapheneOS that are not immediately apparent but have turned out to work very well - 1. The Pixel camera app works, including all modes and settings. A camera that takes good photos was absolutely a requirement for me, and the FOSS camera apps are not quit…

8. External storage works. This is the only mobile OS I've found that has stable support for an External SSD.

I bought a second hand Pixel 7 to test this and an exFat SanDisk Extreme Portable 2TB works with reads/writes perfectly.

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randusername wrote: post #240

How are the cameras on the latest devices running GrapheneOS? My last Android experience was the Oneplus One and the experience left me with the feeling that cameras are just too proprietary to work well once you go tinkering with custom ROMs and camera apps. I'm not a photographer or anything, I just want to quickly point and shoot and get on with whatever I'm doing without thinking too hard.

GrapheneOS only works on Pixel devices so it only targets a very limited set of Android camera hardware.

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Post by netbioserror »

agile-gift0262 wrote: post #249

I've been using it for more than 2 years, and I can't think of ever going back to a stock OS. I had to send my phone for a screen repair, in the meantime I picked up my old Samsung, and the sheer amount of apps I didn't want, notifications and dark patterns to tricking me into handing over my data made me anxious. I couldn't finish setting the phone up and drove to my parent's home to pick up their old, remotely nerf…

Same. Not only has using it been no trouble, but having a barebones core app selection, a few picks from F-Droid, and using the browser for the rest makes my phone feel refreshingly under my control. It lasts for 3-4 days of low usage to boot, when nothing is phoning home constantly.

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Post by Paianni »

svilen_dobrev wrote: post #227
rubymamis wrote: post #43

We need Linux OSes and phones to catch up to really break free from this duopoly. Only when there is enough traction, essential infrastructure like banks will start supporting Oses like that. It's a chicken and egg kind of problem.

what happened to Sailfish? the successor of meego et-al It is finnish, anyone knows how are they going? i used that for 2 years, it's linux+kde bottom to top, a terminal + shell is a builtin, though only supporting 5+ years old Sony phones got tiresome. Still.. it seems the only one that's usable enough apart of the duopoly. May have to switch to it again.

They have been underfunded for a decade now, with some unfortunate consequences - the web browser is based on Gecko 91.

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

agile-gift0262 wrote: post #249

I've been using it for more than 2 years, and I can't think of ever going back to a stock OS. I had to send my phone for a screen repair, in the meantime I picked up my old Samsung, and the sheer amount of apps I didn't want, notifications and dark patterns to tricking me into handing over my data made me anxious. I couldn't finish setting the phone up and drove to my parent's home to pick up their old, remotely nerf…

~6 months here. In my case, it became almost a full daily driver ( putting corporate spyware on it would kinda defeat the purpose ). It is by no means perfect, but I can recommend it ( and I could not do the same with other phones that should have been better on paper -- linux phones like pinephone or purism ).

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Post by jokethrowaway »

I really don't want to give Google money so the Pixel is off for me until GrapheneOS supports something else.

For now I consider smartphones as disposable toys that can't be trusted with anything sensitive and use a computer for privacy.

I also don't like the idea of running Android, I still hope for a real linux phone at some point.

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Post by kakacik »

haskman wrote: post #235

Been running GrapheneOS for a while on a Pixel 9, and extremely happy with it! Apart from the usual perks of the FOSS ecosystem, there are a few things specific to GrapheneOS that are not immediately apparent but have turned out to work very well - 1. The Pixel camera app works, including all modes and settings. A camera that takes good photos was absolutely a requirement for me, and the FOSS camera apps are not quit…

A quick question from potential buyer of next generation of pixel phones, since samsung keeps disappointing hard with their top line - is there any difference in quality between default photo app and what graphene os bundles with?

Pixel are supposed to be very good in photography, part hardware and part software, and my concern would be degradation of that software part. With small kids, there is nothing more important on phone for me than photos/video quality these days (apart from never going into apple ecosystem, I am just incompatible with that company' philosophy).

Or its just about slapping some commercial photo app (like I heard from other photographers is often done on apple to get most out of it, but forgot the name of the app) and not caring about this?

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Post by ForHackernews »

ramon156 wrote: post #18

Does anyone have a good grasp of the differences between GOS and /e/OS? I'm buying a Fairphone soon and was wondering what both are like

The main difference is that GrapheneOS prioritizes security hardening first and foremost (above usability or compatibility). /e/OS focuses on privacy (i.e. reducing data leakage to adtech) and usability over security.

To put it concretely, GrapheneOS recommends running all the proprietary Google apps in a locked "sandbox" so they can't read data on the phone outside the sandbox -- but obviously Google still gets to see everything you do in their apps. /e/OS tries to provide [largely but not entirely FLOSS] alternatives (e.g. their own Maps app, their own email, their own calendar) that make your phone usable out of the box without Google software.

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Post by Brybry »

Neil44 wrote: post #160
bergheim wrote: post #105

Been using this for about a year on a p9 pro. It works very well. I hear the google tap to pay does not work, but I've never tried it. However Vipps with their tap to pay works fine. BankID works but not with biometric login, which some things require IIRC. And for some reason DnB private works fine, but you are not allowed in on the corp app. It's mind boggingly stupid that they lock down apps like this, when you ca…

Same with Lineage OS, may daughter has an old Samsung with Lineage on it and the Wallet app doesn't work because the phone's been rooted.

You're doomed to this issue with old phones in general.

Even un-modified you'll then be stuck with an old version of Android that doesn't support the latest versions of apps and the old versions of apps won't work properly.

It's really a shame because a lot of old phones work perfectly fine otherwise.

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