Does this remind anyone of pranking the new hire? "Go to the hardware store and fetch some rainbow paint"
I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
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Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
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> nowhere is it clearly specified that the 'free, thinking' model is not as capable as the 'paid, thinking ' nowhere is it clearly specified that the free model IS as capable as the paid one either. so if you have uncertainty if IS/IS-NOT as capable, what sort of scientist assumes the answer IS?
> nowhere is it clearly specified that the free model IS as capable as the paid one either. so if you have uncertainty if IS/IS-NOT as capable, what sort of scientist assumes the answer IS? Putting the same model name/number on both the free and paid versions is the specification that performance will be the same. If a scientist has to bring to bear his science background to interpret and evaluate product markings, t…
They don't have the same labels though. On the free ChatGPT you can't select thinking mode.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
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Doubt. The labs are afraid of users becoming too hooked on their products? lol…
People offing themselves because their lover convinced them it's time is absolutely not worth the extra addiction potential. We even witnessed this happen with OAI. It's a fast track to public disdain and heavy handed government regulation.
Regulation would be preferable for OpenAI to the tort lawyers. In general the LLM companies should want regulation because the alternative is tort, product liability tort, and contract law.
There is no way without the protections that could be afforded by regulation to offer such wide-ranging uses of the product without also accepting significant liability. If the range of "foreseeable misuse" is very broad and deep, so is the possible liability. If your marketing says that the bot is your lawyer, doctor, therapist, and spouse in one package, how is one to say that the company can escape all the comprehensive duties that attach to those social roles. Courts will weigh the tiny and inconspicuous disclaimers against the very large and loud marketing claims.
The companies could protect themselves in ways not unlike the ways in which the banking industry protects itself by replacing generic duties with ones defined by statute and regulation. Unless that happens, lawyers will loot the shareholders.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#644I've used LLMs enough that I have a good sense of their _edges_ of intelligence. I had assumed that reasoning models should easily be able to answer this correctly. And indeed, Sonnet and Opus 4.5 (medium reasoning) say the following: Sonnet: Drive - you need to bring your car to the car wash to get it washed! Opus: You'll need to drive — you have to bring the car to the car wash to get it washed! Gemini 3 Pro (mediu…
I can feel the AGI on this one :) I ran extensive tests on this and variations on multiple models. Most models interpret 50 m as a short distance and struggle with spatial reasoning. Only Gemini and Grok correctly inferred that you would need to bring your car to get it washed in their thought stream, and incorporated that into the final answer. GPT-5.2 and Kimi K2.5 and even Opus 4.6 failed in my tests - https://x.c…
> I can feel the AGI on this one :)
This was probably meant in a sarcastic way, but isn't it impressive how you cannot push Gemini off track? I tried another prompt with claiming that one of my cups does not work, because it is closed at the top and open at the bottom, and it kind of played with me, giving me a funny technical explanation on how to solve that problem and finally asking me if that was a trick question.
In this case I can feel the AGI indeed.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
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> so you need to tell them the specifics That is the entire point, right? Us having to specify things that we would never specify when talking to a human. You would not start with "The car is functional. The tank is filled with gas. I have my keys." As soon as we are required to do that for the model to any extend that is a problem and not a detail (regardless that those of us, who are familiar with the matter, do bu…
This reminds me of the "if you were entirely blind, how would you tell someone that you want something to drink"-gag, where some people start gesturing rather than... just talking. I bet a not insignificant portion of the population would tell the person to walk.
Yes, there are thousands of videos of these sorts of pranks on TikTok.
Another one. Ask some how to pronounce “Y, E, S”. They say “eyes”. Then say “add an E to the front of those letters - how do you pronounce that word”? And people start saying things like “E yes”.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#646Earlier quoted context omitted.
> so you need to tell them the specifics That is the entire point, right? Us having to specify things that we would never specify when talking to a human. You would not start with "The car is functional. The tank is filled with gas. I have my keys." As soon as we are required to do that for the model to any extend that is a problem and not a detail (regardless that those of us, who are familiar with the matter, do bu…
> we can assume similar issues arise in more complex cases I would assume similar issues are more rare in longer, more complex prompts. This prompt is ambiguous about the position of the car because it's so short. If it were longer and more complex, there could be more signals about the position of the car and what you're trying to do. I must confess the prompt confuses me too, because it's obvious you take the car t…
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Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#647I've used LLMs enough that I have a good sense of their _edges_ of intelligence. I had assumed that reasoning models should easily be able to answer this correctly. And indeed, Sonnet and Opus 4.5 (medium reasoning) say the following: Sonnet: Drive - you need to bring your car to the car wash to get it washed! Opus: You'll need to drive — you have to bring the car to the car wash to get it washed! Gemini 3 Pro (mediu…
> My first instinct was, I had underspecified the location of the car. The model seems to assume the car is already at the car wash from the wording. GPT 5.x series models behave a bit more on the spectrum so you need to tell them the specifics. This makes little sense, even though it sounds superficially convincing. However, why would a language model assume that the car is at the destination when evaluating the dif…
If we are just speculating here, I believe it can infer that you would not ask this question if the car was at home.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#648Gemini 3 Flash gave me a fun answer! Since your goal is to wash the car, you should definitely drive it there. As an IT guy, you can think of it like this: walking to the car wash is like remoting into a server to run a script, but forgetting to include the actual data payload. You'll arrive at the destination, but you won't have the "hardware" present to perform the intended task! Unless you are planning to carry bu…
Oh man. I absolutely hate how Gemini tries to tie what it knows about you into every single answer. It caused me to go delete everything it had in memory about me.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#649Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can feel the AGI on this one :) I ran extensive tests on this and variations on multiple models. Most models interpret 50 m as a short distance and struggle with spatial reasoning. Only Gemini and Grok correctly inferred that you would need to bring your car to get it washed in their thought stream, and incorporated that into the final answer. GPT-5.2 and Kimi K2.5 and even Opus 4.6 failed in my tests - https://x.c…
To be fair, we all have holes in our reasoning if we don’t carefully consider things and sometimes they are very surprising when they come to light. The dependency issue (need the car at the car wash) is an easy one that often trips up people at first glance too. (Left my phone at work, plan: take an uber to get to the office, walk to the couch and remember I don’t have my phone to call an uber) Things like that are…
Another simple example is using the flashlight on your phone to look for your phone.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
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For GPT at least, a lot of it is because "DO NOT ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION OR ASK FOR CONFIRMATION" is in the system prompt. Twice. https://github.com/Wyattwalls/system_prompts/blob/main/OpenA...
Out of curiosity: when you add custom instructions client-side, does it change this behavior?
Not for me, at least with CharGPT. I am slowly moving to Gemini due to ChatGPT uptime issues. I will try it with Gemini too.