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I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
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Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#42You need to ask Claude Code, and ask it to check if the car got washed. It would figure it out the same way it crushes compiler errors!
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#43To be fair, many humans fail at the question "How would feel if you didn't have breakfast today?"
>humans
Add it to the list
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#44All of the latest models I've tried actually pass this test. What I found interesting was all of the success cases were similar to: e.g. "Drive. Most car washes require the car to be present to wash,..." Only most?! They have an inability to have a strong "opinion" probably because their post training, and maybe the internet in general, prefer hedged answers....
I guess it didn’t want to rule out the existence of ultra-powerful water jets that can wash a car in sniper mode.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#45This is the voice model, which doesn’t have any «thinking» or «reasoning» phase. It’s a useful model for questions that aren’t intended to trick the model.
I’ve used it for live translation with great success. It tends to start ignoring the original instructions after 20 min, so you have to start a new conversation if you don’t want it to meddle in the conversation instead of just transferring.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#46I've used LLMs enough that I have a good sense of their _edges_ of intelligence. I had assumed that reasoning models should easily be able to answer this correctly.
And indeed, Sonnet and Opus 4.5 (medium reasoning) say the following:
Sonnet: Drive - you need to bring your car to the car wash to get it washed!
Opus: You'll need to drive — you have to bring the car to the car wash to get it washed!
Gemini 3 Pro (medium): You should drive.
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But OpenAI 5.2 reasoning, even at high, told me to walk. My first instinct was, I had underspecified the location of the car. The model seems to assume the car is already at the car wash from the wording. GPT 5.x series models behave a bit more on the spectrum so you need to tell them the specifics. So I asked:
"I want to wash my car. My car is currently at home. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?"
GPT 5.2 Reasoning (medium):
"Drive—your goal is to get the car to the car wash, and it’s only 50 meters, so a slow, careful drive is simplest.
One small optimization: if you’re worried about starting the car for such a short trip or you want to avoid idling in a line, you can walk over first to check if there’s a queue / if it’s open, then come back and drive the car over when it’s your turn."
Which seems to turn out as I expected.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#47Deepseek:
>You should drive, because the car needs to be at the car wash to get washed. Walking would leave your car at home, which defeats the purpose.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#48But what LLMs are these? Everything I tried (ChatGPT and Gemini) both say drive.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#49All of the latest models I've tried actually pass this test. What I found interesting was all of the success cases were similar to: e.g. "Drive. Most car washes require the car to be present to wash,..." Only most?! They have an inability to have a strong "opinion" probably because their post training, and maybe the internet in general, prefer hedged answers....
There are mobile car washes that come to your house.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#50All of the latest models I've tried actually pass this test. What I found interesting was all of the success cases were similar to: e.g. "Drive. Most car washes require the car to be present to wash,..." Only most?! They have an inability to have a strong "opinion" probably because their post training, and maybe the internet in general, prefer hedged answers....
Did you try several times per model? In my experience it's luck of the draw. All the models I tried managed to get it wrong at least once.
The models that had access to search got ot right.But, then were just dealing with an indirect version of Google.
(And they got it right for the wrong reasons... I.e this is a known question designed to confuse LLMs)