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EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

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Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#151
A strange decision considering that high fashion is one of the few lucrative sectors of eu. LV cannot afford to give away their branded items , and i doubt they are willing to remanufacture or reuse. They may be a tiny fraction of the industry, but equally affected.

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#152

Can they ship it outside the EU and then destroy it? What happens if truly nobody wants those clothes? Why not just put a carbon tax per weight?

I don’t think that solves the issue they want to fix. The issue is brands that are stylish destroying clothing that’s now out of style (preserving brand value). The price point is already high enough that taxing raw materials doesn’t really push the needle on price, they’ll just pass the costs on. Utilitarian brands already don’t want to destroy clothing because their customers are price sensitive. This forces the br…

i would think chanel quilts would sell very well

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

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This waste generates around 5.6 million tons of CO2 emissions – almost equal to Sweden’s total net emissions in 2021.

Very tongue in cheek: In the latest fully analyzed year (2024) Sweden was CO2 net negative. Cause: Increased growth in forest mass after a few years of increased precipitation and reduced damage from spruce bark beetles.

(https://lantbruksnytt.se/den-svenska-skogen-binder-mer-koldi...)

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#154

Can they ship it outside the EU and then destroy it? What happens if truly nobody wants those clothes? Why not just put a carbon tax per weight?

Donations would already be a great thing. This law makes it feasible in boardrooms to justify donations. Donations to shelters, developing countries and otherwise.

donations are just an excuse to dump them on poor countries

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#155

Can they ship it outside the EU and then destroy it? What happens if truly nobody wants those clothes? Why not just put a carbon tax per weight?

I don’t think that solves the issue they want to fix. The issue is brands that are stylish destroying clothing that’s now out of style (preserving brand value). The price point is already high enough that taxing raw materials doesn’t really push the needle on price, they’ll just pass the costs on. Utilitarian brands already don’t want to destroy clothing because their customers are price sensitive. This forces the br…

How recycling by shredding is not destroying?

If the regulation specifically prohibits burning, it makes sense, as a measure to limit unproductive CO₂ emissions.

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#156

Their plan for what to do instead is an indifferent shrug: "Instead of discarding stock, companies are encouraged to manage their stock more effectively, handle returns, and explore alternatives such as resale, remanufacturing, donations, or reuse."

So they’ll donate it to someone who will then destroy it.

As the recipient of that donation, why would I actually destroy it when I can sell it?

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That has already been happening for decades - and it isn't the "net benefit" most think it is - here is just one example - but there are dozens of similar articles that can be found: https://www.udet.org/post/the-hidden-cost-of-generosity-how-...

> Imported secondhand clothing is sold at prices that local textile producers cannot compete with. As a result, local garment industries collapse, unable to survive against the flood of cheap imports. Hence, jobs are lost in manufacturing and design, stifling innovation and economic growth.What was intended as charity often becomes a form of economic sabotage. Isn't that another version of the Broken Window Fallacy?…

this is not destroying things to create jobs. this is about globalization negatively affecting local culture. clothing especially represents culture. if people can not afford to create their own clothes then that has a negative effect on their culture as a whole.

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#159

Can they ship it outside the EU and then destroy it? What happens if truly nobody wants those clothes? Why not just put a carbon tax per weight?

Maybe they could bury the clothes and call it carbon sequestration. I assume that clothes are made of mostly hydrocarbons.

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

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post #151

A strange decision considering that high fashion is one of the few lucrative sectors of eu. LV cannot afford to give away their branded items , and i doubt they are willing to remanufacture or reuse. They may be a tiny fraction of the industry, but equally affected.

Yes, because shareholder value comes first. Ffs
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