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EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

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Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#121

Their plan for what to do instead is an indifferent shrug: "Instead of discarding stock, companies are encouraged to manage their stock more effectively, handle returns, and explore alternatives such as resale, remanufacturing, donations, or reuse."

So they’ll donate it to someone who will then destroy it.

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#122

Fashion production is responsible for 8-10% of all carbon emissions https://www.ifc.org/en/insights-reports/2023/strengthening-s...

Fashion? No, absolutely not. Textiles in general? Maybe, but almost certainly not. This is the actual quote on the page you cite: "Today, the combined textile and apparel sectors contribute as much as 8–10% of global greenhouse gas emissions." Notice the unusual way they spell "fashion"...

Right, textiles are much bigger than fashion - bedding, furniture upholstery, curtains, some types of shelter, practical items like footwear, protective equipment, medical equipment and dressings, vehicle interiors... pretty much all aspects of human life depend on textiles. It ain't just cheap t shirts and dresses.

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#123

In my experience in other physical goods industries (not textiles specifically) there is a big difference between products that are good but aren’t ever sold for some reason and products that are deemed not sellable for some reason. For example, if a custom returns a product that was opened but they claim was never used (worn in this case) you can’t sell it to someone else as a new item. With physical products these…

> What if a batch of products is determined to have some QA problems?

Not covered by this regulation in spirit and (probably, haven't read it yet) in text. The spirit of the regulation is targeting fast-fashion on-prem retailers (think H&M, Primark, Zara and the likes) and online retailers like Shein, who have heaps of products that just aren't sold because they're not wanted - and also the occasional luxury brand trying to maintain scarcity [1].

> but for a while we found ourselves honoring warranty claims for items that, ironically enough, had already been warrantied once and then “recycled” by our recycling service.

Yikes. That's something worth filing a lawsuit claim or at the very least terminating the business relationship.

[1] https://theweek.com/95179/luxury-brands-including-burberry-b...

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

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post #96

Incredibly, unbelievably stupid law. Waste is made when something unwanted is created, not when it is thrown out. Destruction or landfill is often the best option for all involved and modern landfills are very safe and sustainable. I worked in recycled clothing for a few years and it is not always or even often efficient. This is forcing society to be inefficient to make some people feel a little better emotionally a…

producers and sellers will have to optimize via better consumption prediction or via less previous season throw away.

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#125
post #38

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European politicians will wear the clothes nobody wants so they can be decommissioned lawfully.

This kind of reply is so cliché it's tiresome. "Someone makes small step to avoid waste and environmental damage" -> "if it's not perfect it's no good at all, let the free market sort it out at t=infinity". Guess what, the free market doesn't give a shit as long as the executives make their millions.

Where even are all the people wandering around naked for lack of clothes? There's so much donated clothing already out there. And the homeless here mainly 'need clothes' because they have no way to wash their clothes. It'd be less wasteful to get them access to laundry facilities. And the developing world always gets the "PATRIOTS - Super Bowl LX Champions" gear and a ton of other cast-offs - I doubt they need more.

To me this whole regulation sounds like a bunch of virtue-signaling politicians wanted to pat themselves on the back.

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#126
post #77

Typical Eurocrat meddling in people's affairs. The owners of those items should be free to do whatever they want. If the government is concerend about environmental damage, they should raise landfill fees or tax carbon, not limit what firms are allowed to do with their own things.

Well put. Of course noone says that this will increase clothes price for everyone.

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

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post #96

Incredibly, unbelievably stupid law. Waste is made when something unwanted is created, not when it is thrown out. Destruction or landfill is often the best option for all involved and modern landfills are very safe and sustainable. I worked in recycled clothing for a few years and it is not always or even often efficient. This is forcing society to be inefficient to make some people feel a little better emotionally a…

eu is inefficent to be stable, until it is not, by design

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#128

In my experience in other physical goods industries (not textiles specifically) there is a big difference between products that are good but aren’t ever sold for some reason and products that are deemed not sellable for some reason. For example, if a custom returns a product that was opened but they claim was never used (worn in this case) you can’t sell it to someone else as a new item. With physical products these…

I heard that the clothes especially from high end brands are destroyed to keep the value of the brand high ie not to cannibalize sales. Which doesnt seem like good enough reason to burn 300.000+t of clothes (that created untold emissions)

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#129
post #116

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Man it would really make my day if all the homeless people started walking around in Prada and Gucci. That would probably be just thing to kill off these brands for good.

How would we tell if the homeless started wearing Balenciaga though? Most of that trash already looks like it was lifted off the back of a homeless person (and one who is hard on his clothes)!

I think this was predicted in that "documentary"... hmmm, Zoolander... with the fashion-line "Derelicte"...

Re: EU bans the destruction of unsold apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear

#130

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> I wonder if it will reduce risk-taking since it increases the downside of launching an unpopular product. That is a feature, not a bug. Risk-taking in "apparel, clothing, accessories and footwear" which results in wasted resources is not something to incentivise.

Counter point: all of human existence. We wouldn’t have 99% of the technological advancements we’ve made without a fuckton of failure and waste.

Counter point to the counter point: also all of human existence.

The "fuckton of failure and waste" which has brought technological advancements to humanity didn't come from destroying unsold clothing, and the risks involved in actual technological advancements are orders of magnitude larger than the risk of not being able to destroy unsold consumer products without penalty.

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