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Re: The wonder of modern drywall

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Post by amluto »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #239
blincoln wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like it's improved even further - I'm seeing that model listed with 512x384 resolution, and it's $300 on Amazon. Pretty incredible! I felt like I was getting an amazing deal when I paid about $1000 15 years ago for a FLIR E4 that I could flash into an E8. I might finally retire that in favour of one of these.

That's the software upscaled size, not the real resolution. Typical distortions of East Asian marketing.

I would be amused if the actual reason for upscaling is that a 256x192 display is hard to source and that the firmware is partially shared between models with a display and models without one.

Re: The wonder of modern drywall

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Post by ragall »

DANmode wrote: post #250
ragall wrote: post #220

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Why wouldn't I want to stop the noise of my neighbour's lawn mower, or the garbage truck very slowly passing by at 7:30 when I should be sound asleep, or the washing machine furiously spinning, or my visiting inlaws cooking in the kitchen when I want to get an afternoon nap ? These sh*tty houses let all noises through.

Off-Topic, but not really: Mack’s Ultra Soft earplugs

I'd rather not. I expect more from a modern house.

Re: The wonder of modern drywall

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Post by lazide »

ragall wrote: post #235
lazide wrote: post #233

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Yes, if they weren’t redone separately. Each of them has their own lifecycles, so it’s rare they all get done at once. At that point, most people will just do a full teardown.

A properly built house doesn't need a teardown for centuries.

‘Need’ vs ‘if you’re going to redo literally everything, why not make it more modern’.

Re: The wonder of modern drywall

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Post by UncleMeat »

lazide wrote: post #174
willis936 wrote: post #101

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Why would heightened electricity demand increase the use of the most expensive energy source?

Solar is cheap and abundant during daytime. It has zero power at night. Coal/gas/nukes are more expensive, but runs 24/7. Batteries are getting cheaper, but are still not that cheap. AI/Data centers need power 24/7.

Batteries exist and are already deployed, with solar-plus-battery being cheaper than coal.

Re: The wonder of modern drywall

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

amluto wrote: post #251
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the software upscaled size, not the real resolution. Typical distortions of East Asian marketing.

I would be amused if the actual reason for upscaling is that a 256x192 display is hard to source and that the firmware is partially shared between models with a display and models without one.

It connects to a cell phone for display so the image is scaled either way. The issue is how the chosen algorithm may be adding non-existent detail or not. If you disable the enhancement you get nearest-neighbor. The true sensor size is all that really matters. Flir has nothing in this segment that comes close to that.

Re: The wonder of modern drywall

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Post by DANmode »

hedora wrote: post #131

Drywall is terrible vs. modern plaster. Modern plaster has backing boards that are similar to drywall, so you get most of the construction advantages (except for the labor intensive step of plastering), and can hand pictures / toggle bolts in the same way. Unlike plaster, drywall gets moldy + needs to be replaced after water damage. I think this is why films with old buildings set in Europe often show peeling paint /…

> In the US, buildings with that level of wear would be so moldy they'd need to be gutted to studs, at minimum.

Middle America and the rust belt would like a word (and the word is: mycotoxins, lol).

Re: The wonder of modern drywall

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Post by intrasight »

jimnotgym wrote: post #173
yowayb wrote: post #115

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I love exposed everything in construction. Every plumbing and electrical problem that required me to call someone involved the thing being hidden for aesthetic reasons. I'm currently in an old house in Vietnam and I had to add exposed PVC piping to route around a leak inside a wall that was also feeding mold. Half of the work involved each time I call someone is understanding the hidden stuff + getting stuff out of t…

My dad, who has been a carpenter for over 50 years used to rail against boxing in pipes. "Once upon a time people were just glad to have running water, now it has to arrive by magic" In his house there is a duct behind the skirting boards upstairs. You can fish a wire to most places from there. His other pet hate was glued down cupboard flooring. Squeaky floors were a common complaint in new houses. It was normally c…

"glue and screw" is the norm now. I just can't - having struggled to remove glued down stuff.

Re: The wonder of modern drywall

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Post by enobrev »

epcoa wrote: post #39
enobrev wrote: post #3

I will never understand why we fill our walls with mechanical and electrical infrastructure and then wrap them in a paper and plaster, which then needs to be torn, broken, and repaired in order to maintain said infrastructure. Pipes will fail. Wires will fail. Ducts will fail. Maybe not in 5 years, but over the span of 20, they will. Why make them so frustratingly inaccessible?

Rarely do pipes, wires, or ducts just outright fail even in 50 years. Usual case for tearing out drywall is for voluntary renovations. Shit behind the wall just doesn't "fail" if it is left undisturbed or you were unlucky like those that got defective PEX or similar installed.

My house is 150 years old, but it's also been rebuilt several times in that time. My neighbors' houses are less than a decade old. We have all swapped stories about replacing things behind drywall. Leaks. Electrical issues. Ducts. Everything. Consider yourself lucky if you have not. 50 years is not the number you should bet upon.

Re: The wonder of modern drywall

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Post by DANmode »

ragall wrote: post #252
DANmode wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off-Topic, but not really: Mack’s Ultra Soft earplugs

I'd rather not. I expect more from a modern house.

I identify with that frustration more than most!

But, how many additional decades will you expect it for,

without giving your nervous system the rest it’s asking you for?

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