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Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by unethical_ban »

nozzlegear wrote: post #145
Liftyee wrote: post #6

As a lifelong Android user (in the EU, where Apple hegemony is not as strong) I always saw Apple as the "pay more for more polished ecosystem UX" option. So it always surprises me when things that are trivial on Android/Linux are sticking points on iOS/macOS. Worse, it seems that proprietary means you can't do anything to fix them yourself.

Anecdote but I've never had issues with the keyboard, or with Siri mishearing me (just to touch on another common pain point that people talk about re: Apple tech). I've always interpreted stories like this as the people who are most affected by it being vocal and speaking out (as they should), while the majority who aren't just have nothing to say because it all works fine. > Worse, it seems that proprietary means y…

When I had iPhone for work, the first thing I did was install gboard. Iphone's native keyboard has always been less accurate. I have no idea how to describe it because I haven't researched it.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by dylan604 »

nozzlegear wrote: post #145
Liftyee wrote: post #6

As a lifelong Android user (in the EU, where Apple hegemony is not as strong) I always saw Apple as the "pay more for more polished ecosystem UX" option. So it always surprises me when things that are trivial on Android/Linux are sticking points on iOS/macOS. Worse, it seems that proprietary means you can't do anything to fix them yourself.

Anecdote but I've never had issues with the keyboard, or with Siri mishearing me (just to touch on another common pain point that people talk about re: Apple tech). I've always interpreted stories like this as the people who are most affected by it being vocal and speaking out (as they should), while the majority who aren't just have nothing to say because it all works fine. > Worse, it seems that proprietary means y…

> the majority who aren't just have nothing to say because it all works fine.

This is a bad way to go through life with this reasoning. It is pretty well understood that in normal situations the vast majority of people are not vocal even if they feel the same way about things the vocal people are saying. As an example I use a lot, congress critters use a formula to get the pulse of the constituents. If they receive a hand written letter (yes, I learned about the formula when people did that), they'd multiply that by some factor knowing that if one person felt strongly enough to send in a letter that others also felt that way. Phone calls were the same, but with a smaller multiplier as it was easier to make a call that write a letter followed by emails with yet a smaller mult. This was all well before social media, but I'd imagine searching tweets would give a pretty good indicator as well now. A single tweet would be worth something, but tweets with lots of retweets and heavy comment activity would be something else. Even if a tweet is something done pretty much on a whim with little thought behind it like that letter.

The silent majority is called that for a reason. It doesn't mean they are happy or content. Ignore that reality at your own peril.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by srmatto »

DamnInteresting wrote: post #151

@ozzyphantom: You might consider being more specific about your grievances in the text of your countdown page. As it stands, it's a bit vague, describing the keyboard as "broken" and autocorrect as "nearly useless". Sure, the video you link to is more descriptive, but it's a lot to ask of a visitor to click through and watch a separate video. As for the underlying issue, I have experienced similar typing issues on my…

The recent changes to the iOS keyboard and text editing in general have been very counter productive for me as well. Tap to select doesn't really work the same way anymore and the logic of it isn't clear to me which makes it unpredictable. Typing accurately itself has gotten really difficult. I used to be a pretty quick typist on the iOS keyboard but now I find myself looking for my Mac to send a message from there or using voice to text more.

Folks can thumb their noses at Reddit but the top comment in every post about iOS updates since 26.0 was released is some variation of "fix the keyboard." The problem seems very real for a lot of users.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by LollipopYakuza »

DamnInteresting wrote: post #151

@ozzyphantom: You might consider being more specific about your grievances in the text of your countdown page. As it stands, it's a bit vague, describing the keyboard as "broken" and autocorrect as "nearly useless". Sure, the video you link to is more descriptive, but it's a lot to ask of a visitor to click through and watch a separate video. As for the underlying issue, I have experienced similar typing issues on my…

I understand your point, but for an issue that's been addressed so many times, it doesn't sound necessary to get into details. The issue doesn't seem to be that Apple doesn't know but that they don't care.

However, if I, as the author cared to justify that "it's not only me", I would have listed more posts and feedback. I feel like I have read at least 4 times about the broken keyboard, it should not be hard to find a few other links.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by ActorNightly »

lubujackson wrote: post #84
Beestie wrote: post #43

Android: Here's the phone; knock yourself out Apple: Father knows best (but Father is getting old and sometimes forgets things) Windows: If only we understood what the ancestors knew

More like: Apple: Father died a while back, but Step-Father is here now and he doesn't love you.

If Steve jobs was still around, the iPhone would be considerably worse.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by rootusrootus »

With a couple brief exceptions, I've been an iPhone user since 2007. I'm not far from switching to Android myself. I'm not under any illusions that Google doesn't have some serious flaws, in some ways definitely worse than Apple, but from a usability standpoint I do find the keyboard and autocorrect behavior just atrocious on my iPhone.

It starts as annoyance, progresses to frustration, then overt anger at a lack of action from Apple. I'm at that last level now.

They pulled their head out of their ass when the MBP evolved into a frustrating pile of crap, and I think my 14" M2 Max MBP is my favorite laptop ever. So they DO sometimes listen to their users. Now is the time to listen again.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by bdangubic »

ActorNightly wrote: post #177
lubujackson wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like: Apple: Father died a while back, but Step-Father is here now and he doesn't love you.

If Steve jobs was still around, the iPhone would be considerably worse.

This is a bold statement - care to elaborate?!
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