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Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by yndoendo »

wilkystyle wrote: post #37
Liftyee wrote: post #6

As a lifelong Android user (in the EU, where Apple hegemony is not as strong) I always saw Apple as the "pay more for more polished ecosystem UX" option. So it always surprises me when things that are trivial on Android/Linux are sticking points on iOS/macOS. Worse, it seems that proprietary means you can't do anything to fix them yourself.

Long-time iOS user here. My motivation for iPhone has always been "you pay more for fewer features and customization, but the UX is more polished." For the past 5-ish years, the UX has consistently gotten considerably worse. Not just the usual things like the horrible keyboard and atrocious Siri capabilities, it's all the stuff that used to just work . Nothing deal-breaking by itself, but all together feels like deat…

From an outsider that used their products years ago.

Apple has shifted from working to produce quality to working to maximize profit ... when it comes to software.

The only thing that would change this would be a new CEO or Apple hemorrhaging money with more people buy alternative solutions.

To be fair ... Microsoft is in the same down hill spiral in quality and the IT industry staying with them allows form the to do this.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by deadbabe »

> But I'd like to think it should mean something to the engineers, UX designers, product people, and whoever else had a hand in building this thing.

It means literally nothing. The people working at Apple now are just there for the paycheck. They push some prompts into an LLM, pick through the output, push something to production that satisfies the acceptance criteria, and move on.

There is no one staying up late doing extensive testing and refinement to get things perfect. There is no one taking pride in the work they’ve done when they push keys on the iOS keyboard. All that has been cut up and distributed through a system of tickets, teams, and managers so that the amount of pride that finally trickles down to engineers is barely more than the pride of taking a big shit.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by stackghost »

BenjaminBarwo wrote: post #75
bix6 wrote: post #64

I really wish someone could start a legitimate competitor to Apple. They are so bloated and just squeezing service revenue out of us. The M chips are great but the software is so buggy.

Yeah, but it's not really their software that's the moat they rely on. It's a lot more to that. They have incredible branding, Devices may be MID, but at least they make good commercials guys..... Plus, everyone's like sheep. If everyone's getting the latest iPhone, they're going to continue to get the latest iPhone because everyone else is getting the latest iPhone. *Sending dis off of a MacBook with my iPhone 16 in…

I don't think the devices themselves are mid. My M-series MacBook pro is fantastic. The battery life, suspend resume, the track pad, the audio quality, it's all really good hardware. Name a better laptop; I'll wait.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by cpuguy83 »

etrautmann wrote: post #76
ryandrake wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Use it or your social group will not want to interact with you" Maybe your "social group". If your friends refuse to talk to you because of the cell phone brand you use, I have bad news for you: They might not really be great friends.

That’s not what this is about. If you have a group chat with one android user, it used to make all aspects of the interactions clunkier. Green bubbles, sending a new text instead of reactions, etc. as such, people would get left off of a list. Those small interactions add up over time.

This just isn't true anymore (besides the green).

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by nozzlegear »

Liftyee wrote: post #6

As a lifelong Android user (in the EU, where Apple hegemony is not as strong) I always saw Apple as the "pay more for more polished ecosystem UX" option. So it always surprises me when things that are trivial on Android/Linux are sticking points on iOS/macOS. Worse, it seems that proprietary means you can't do anything to fix them yourself.

Anecdote but I've never had issues with the keyboard, or with Siri mishearing me (just to touch on another common pain point that people talk about re: Apple tech). I've always interpreted stories like this as the people who are most affected by it being vocal and speaking out (as they should), while the majority who aren't just have nothing to say because it all works fine.

> Worse, it seems that proprietary means you can't do anything to fix them yourself.

We can install third-party keyboards on iOS, so I'm not sure why that's not being considered here.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by munk-a »

BinStorm wrote: post #115

I love the fervor with which this is written, but the threat is so weak I literally chuckled. Imagine your an exec or manager on the team for keyboard development. You read this, get to the end to discover the user is gonna switch devices for... 2 whole calander years? What's that amount to? Maybe 2 device upgrades on If your a die hard gotta have the newest latest model phone each year. Then what? you'll be back? Th…

The article ended up making it to HN and, at least the discussion I'm seeing, is highly critical of Apple's recent design changes. There isn't a threat you can construct that'd throw 20% of Apple's profit into uncertainty, but losing their mantle of technical excellence is something that will deeply damage Apple in the long term. Microsoft seems hell bent on being a worse example right now but if the grade of Apple's products slips too much then the price markup they enjoy will be eroded which is a very dangerous cycle to fall into.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by dotancohen »

DonHopkins wrote: post #122
mmh0000 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure if gitfriend is a typo. I’m lonely and really want a gitfriend to push and merge with! Please tell the story of how you got one! /s for the /s impaired

I'm afraid of commits.

You could wait a bit after forking.

Re: Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android

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Post by latexr »

_diyar wrote: post #120
BinStorm wrote: post #115

I love the fervor with which this is written, but the threat is so weak I literally chuckled. Imagine your an exec or manager on the team for keyboard development. You read this, get to the end to discover the user is gonna switch devices for... 2 whole calander years? What's that amount to? Maybe 2 device upgrades on If your a die hard gotta have the newest latest model phone each year. Then what? you'll be back? Th…

Your comment makes no sense to me. What in your opinion would be a strong threat? 'Tim Cook, open the suspicion package I sent you in the mail!'?

I mean, this random person added a countdown timer, and after that revealed that when it reaches the end, if Apple hasn’t met some arbitrary demand they’ll leave the platform but probably be back (just in time to spend more money on another device) and that the colour of a phone is enough to get them back.

This is one of the emptiest threats I’ve ever seen. This is about as effective as having a madman inside your house destroying your property with a baseball bat and saying “if you don’t stop smashing my stuff in the next 72 hours, I’ll consider writing mean things about you in my diary”.

No need to get specific. Write a blog post about how the keyboard is broken and say you’re leaving for another platform because of it. It’s not like Apple is going to check when you did it or for how long (or care). The theatrics are unnecessary and laughable, they undermine the whole message. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone inside Apple is sharing this with their colleagues and laughing.

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