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Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by briffle »

shortlived wrote: post #19
ajross wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the upgrade price. AFAICT they haven't announced pricing for an installable new copy of the OS.

Yup, fine print: Offer valid from October 26, 2012 until January 31, 2013 and is limited to five upgrade licenses per customer. To install Windows 8 Pro, customers must be running Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista, or Windows 7.

Question is, can I downgrade it to 7pro... I have some machines I want 7 pro on, but not 8... The upgrade from Vista Business to 7 Pro is $200

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by Galactor963 »

sturmeh wrote: post #131
Permit wrote: post #92

Anyone whose University participates in Microsoft DreamSpark will be happy to know it's available for free there already.

Free on DreamSpark or MSDNAA? I can't seem to find it on Dreamspark...

MSDNAA (which has been replaced by "DreamSpark Premium")

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by venus »

RyJones wrote: post #128
ChuckMcM wrote: post #108

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I found this out in a predictable way, at Google they had machines that they bought for desktops which came with an OEM windows sticker but they always put Goobuntu on. I needed an XP license for a project so I thought, "Oh I'll use this one, I know its not being used elsewhere." and did an install with a vanilla distro and the product code. The first thing that broke was it wanted the oem cab file. Fixed that. Then…

For your future reference, Microsoft offers virtual machines of XP, Vista, and 7 for browser compatibility testing. They expire after three months, but for your uses, they're fine. You'd just grab the VHD out of the VM and use any of the import tools to convert it to your preferred VM format. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=1157...

I've used these VMs and they are so infuriating I also want to just buy a full license. They're never able to validate, so they always nag you about "is your windows genuine?" (well I downloaded it from MS so I should hope so!) and shut down every half an hour. They're more trouble than they're worth.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by [deleted] »

venus wrote: post #153
RyJones wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For your future reference, Microsoft offers virtual machines of XP, Vista, and 7 for browser compatibility testing. They expire after three months, but for your uses, they're fine. You'd just grab the VHD out of the VM and use any of the import tools to convert it to your preferred VM format. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=1157...

I've used these VMs and they are so infuriating I also want to just buy a full license. They're never able to validate, so they always nag you about "is your windows genuine?" (well I downloaded it from MS so I should hope so!) and shut down every half an hour. They're more trouble than they're worth.

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Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by wslh »

kinghajj wrote: post #82
wslh wrote: post #71

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We have an issue with Windows 8 that stopped us to installing it on some personal notebooks until sp1 cames. We installed Virtual CloneDrive from SlySoft knowing that it doesn't support Windows 8. After having a blue screen and being not able to boot the system again we tried with booting it safely and we couldn't! so we reinstalled Windows 7 there. Although it was expectable to fail, it was not expectable to not rec…

CloneDrive shouldn't be needed anymore, since Windows 8 (finally) has built-in support for mounting ISO images.

The point of my comment was a weakness in Windows 8 beyond mountins ISOs

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by tedunangst »

Answerawake wrote: post #147
tedunangst wrote: post #114

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You can do a fresh install, but only if there's already a licensed version of windows on the hard drive. If you previously replaced the OS, then the upgrade won't let you register until you run a command from the shell and say it's ok.

What is this command? Is it in any of the Windows 8 guides?

Oh. I thought we were talking about win7 now. It wasn't hard to find when searching for obvious keywords like upgrade verification new install windows whatever.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by HelloMcFly »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #144
HelloMcFly wrote: post #98

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But that's so short-sighted! You know what worked? The Motorola RAZR. But then the iPhone came out and it was a radical change and, even though many said at the time "I just need to make calls and text", it set the standard. If your mentality is always "if it ain't broke don't fix it" then you're probably going to get disrupted. Windows 7 wasn't broke, but the future of the desktop environment looks like it might be,…

Metro is no iPhone.

No, it doesn't need to be in order for the illustration to be apt. "If it isn't broke, don't fix it" is a mentality asking for disruption.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by z92 »

engtech wrote: post #46
ajross wrote: post #32

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If you're not willing to honor the license, what possible point would there be to paying for the software in the first place? I'm willing to be a Win8 crack is live on thepiratebay within the week. The discussion was about whether or not MS has decided to reduce their retail OS price from the ~$100 it is at right now. AFAICT, they have not.

There is a grey area where you can have a Genuine copy of Windows that you paid for (and that can still Windows update) but was derived from an OEM license that was transferred to another machine. This is still desirable compared to torrenting because a pirated copy will end up failing the Genuine check, will no longer get updates, and will happily be a part of some botnet some day.

That was a lot of years back. And then MS declared it will auto update and patch every XP, genuine or not.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by [deleted] »

venus wrote: post #153
RyJones wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For your future reference, Microsoft offers virtual machines of XP, Vista, and 7 for browser compatibility testing. They expire after three months, but for your uses, they're fine. You'd just grab the VHD out of the VM and use any of the import tools to convert it to your preferred VM format. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=1157...

I've used these VMs and they are so infuriating I also want to just buy a full license. They're never able to validate, so they always nag you about "is your windows genuine?" (well I downloaded it from MS so I should hope so!) and shut down every half an hour. They're more trouble than they're worth.

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