Windows 8 Arrives • Hacker News Board

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by mulletbum » Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 9:02 PM UTC

rossjudson wrote: post #58

dmix wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows XP - success Windows Vista - failure Windows 7 - success Windows 8 - potential failure Just following a pattern.

I see Vista characterized as a failure over and over again, and Win 7 as a success. Win 7 is somewhat better than Vista, but the distance between them isn't that great. Besides the fact that UAC prompts were more frequent in Vista, was there some particular problem with Vista? For a year or two there I was running workstations with both, and didn't see much difference. I think Vista took the heat for imposing securit…

Do you feel like Vista ran slower than 7? That was my issue with Vista, the new design was fine, but it just seemed to run poorly compared to the speed of 7.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by kinghajj » Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 9:04 PM UTC

wslh wrote: post #71

luma wrote: post #22

I've been running Windows 8 since they release the RTM version to TechNet subscribers on my primary laptop (about a month now). Short version - outside of Metro it's basically Win7SP3 and it works great. Metro is every bit the usability disaster that people have claimed when not running on a touch screen. The good news is that you really don't have to interface much with Metro at all. It replaces the start menu, but…

We have an issue with Windows 8 that stopped us to installing it on some personal notebooks until sp1 cames. We installed Virtual CloneDrive from SlySoft knowing that it doesn't support Windows 8. After having a blue screen and being not able to boot the system again we tried with booting it safely and we couldn't! so we reinstalled Windows 7 there. Although it was expectable to fail, it was not expectable to not rec…

CloneDrive shouldn't be needed anymore, since Windows 8 (finally) has built-in support for mounting ISO images.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by potatolicious » Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 9:08 PM UTC

jaybill wrote: post #79

And it STILL doesn't play DVDs without additional software! sigh

This seems far less egregious now than it was a few years ago...

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 9:09 PM UTC

engtech wrote: post #6

Windows 8 Pro upgrade for $39 dollars ($15 for newer PCs). [1] That's... reasonable. I might consider buying a copy of Windows 8 Pro at that price and then waiting until it hits SP1 to install it. I might even spin up a VM to try it out. I like that the $39 upgrade applies to anyone with Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows 7. I think they're realizing that a lot of people don't upgrade OS because they don't want to…

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Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by OriginalSyn » Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 9:09 PM UTC

rossjudson wrote: post #58

dmix wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows XP - success Windows Vista - failure Windows 7 - success Windows 8 - potential failure Just following a pattern.

I see Vista characterized as a failure over and over again, and Win 7 as a success. Win 7 is somewhat better than Vista, but the distance between them isn't that great. Besides the fact that UAC prompts were more frequent in Vista, was there some particular problem with Vista? For a year or two there I was running workstations with both, and didn't see much difference. I think Vista took the heat for imposing securit…

It's the little things that add up, Vista is like Win7 with an itchy wool sweater over top. Win7 refined UAC, the quicklaunch/taskbar is amazing and the running task previews actually work, the start menu app search is better, the system tray notifications can be more finely tuned, and it runs significantly better on mid/lower end hardware.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by foohbarbaz » Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 9:11 PM UTC

The only way I am going to see Windows 8 is with a new PC (which is a few years away, next purchase is probably an Apple product), or at work.

At work the IT dept will hopefully skip this version all together, or take a few years before "approving" it.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by coin » Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 9:17 PM UTC

loudmax wrote: post #80

ConstantineXVI wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows OEM licenses aren't transferrable from the PCs they're sold with. Retail licenses are transferrable to another person, once.

That's a pity. I just bought a new ThinkPad and there was no way to get it without Windows. It runs Xubuntu now and it's really snappy. I'd be happy to give away or sell the unwanted Windows license.

That's the Windows "tax" everyone complains about. Microsoft gives huge discounts to OEMs if they promise to bundle Windows with every PC they sell.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by hristov » Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 9:20 PM UTC

luma wrote: post #22

I've been running Windows 8 since they release the RTM version to TechNet subscribers on my primary laptop (about a month now). Short version - outside of Metro it's basically Win7SP3 and it works great. Metro is every bit the usability disaster that people have claimed when not running on a touch screen. The good news is that you really don't have to interface much with Metro at all. It replaces the start menu, but…

"Metro is every bit the usability disaster that people have claimed when not running on a touch screen."

It is good to see a total usability disaster in which Linux took the lead and Windows followed. It is usually the other way around. This really bodes well for Linux on the desktop.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by petitmiam » Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 9:21 PM UTC

rossjudson wrote: post #58

dmix wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows XP - success Windows Vista - failure Windows 7 - success Windows 8 - potential failure Just following a pattern.

I see Vista characterized as a failure over and over again, and Win 7 as a success. Win 7 is somewhat better than Vista, but the distance between them isn't that great. Besides the fact that UAC prompts were more frequent in Vista, was there some particular problem with Vista? For a year or two there I was running workstations with both, and didn't see much difference. I think Vista took the heat for imposing securit…

I hardly notice a difference between Vista post SP1 and Win 7.

Vista had teething problems early on which burnt a lot of people. Unfortunately, that's what seems to be stuck in everyone's minds.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Post by nonane » Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 9:25 PM UTC

luma wrote: post #22

I've been running Windows 8 since they release the RTM version to TechNet subscribers on my primary laptop (about a month now). Short version - outside of Metro it's basically Win7SP3 and it works great. Metro is every bit the usability disaster that people have claimed when not running on a touch screen. The good news is that you really don't have to interface much with Metro at all. It replaces the start menu, but…

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