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Post by blinding-streak »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #207
Ozzie_osman wrote: post #130

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Peacetime Google is not like wartime Google. Peacetime Google is slow, bumbling, bureaucratic. Wartime Google gets shit done.

Wartime Google gave us Google+. Wartime Google is still bumbling, and despite OpenAI's numerous missteps, I don't think it has to worry about Google hurting its business yet.

Google+ was fun. Failed in the market though.

Apple made a social network called Ping. Disaster. MobileMe was silly.

Microsoft made Zune and the Kin 1 and Kin 2 devices and Windows phone and all sorts of other disasters.

These things happen.

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Post by ssstiktok »

blibble wrote: post #371
jimmymcgee73 wrote: post #364

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If LLMs truly cause widespread replacement of labor, you’re screwed just as much as anyone else. If we hit say 40% unemployment do you think people will care you own your home or not? Do you think people will care you have currency or not? The best case outcome will be universal income and a pseudo utopia where everyone does ok. The “bad” scenario is widespread war. I am one of the “haves” and am not looking forward…

> I am one of the “haves” and am not looking forward to the instability this may bring. Literally no one should. these people always forget capitalism is permitted to exist by consent of the people if there's 40% unemployment it won't continue to exist, regardless of what the TV/tiktok/chatgpt says

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

octoberfranklin wrote: post #324
sinuhe69 wrote: post #38

I'm pretty certain that DeepMind (and all other labs) will try their frontier (and even private) models on First Proof [1]. And I wonder how Gemini Deep Think will fare. My guess is that it will get half the way on some problems. But we will have to take an absence as a failure, because nobody wants to publish a negative result, even though it's so important for scientific research. [1] https://1stproof.org/

Really surprised that 1stproof.org was submitted three times and never made front page at HN. https://hn.algolia.com/?q=1stproof This is exactly the kind of challenge I would want to judge AI systems based on. It required ten bleeding-edge-research mathematicians to publish a problem they've solved but hold back the answer . I appreciate the huge amount of social capital and coordination that must have taken. I'm rea…

Of course it isn't made the front page. If something is promising they hunt it down, and when conquered they post about it. Lot of times the new category has much better results, than the default HN view.

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

dakolli wrote: post #74
vessenes wrote: post #20

Not trained for agentic workflows yet unfortunately - this looks like it will be fantastic when they have an agent friendly one. Super exciting.

Its really weird how you all are begging to be replaced by llms, you think if agentic workflows get good enough you're going to keep your job? Or not have your salary reduced by 50%? If Agents get good enough it's not going to build some profitable startup for you (or whatever people think they're doing with the llm slot machines) because that implies that anyone else with access to that agent can just copy you, its…

But the head honchos on ted.com said AI will create more jobs.

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

BeetleB wrote: post #269
dakolli wrote: post #74

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Its really weird how you all are begging to be replaced by llms, you think if agentic workflows get good enough you're going to keep your job? Or not have your salary reduced by 50%? If Agents get good enough it's not going to build some profitable startup for you (or whatever people think they're doing with the llm slot machines) because that implies that anyone else with access to that agent can just copy you, its…

> Its really weird how you all are begging to be replaced by llms, you think if agentic workflows get good enough you're going to keep your job? Or not have your salary reduced by 50%? The computer industry (including SW) has been in the business of replacing jobs for decades - since the 70's. It's only fitting that SW engineers finally become the target.

The most gullible workforce ever (FOSS), but seeing Youtube, half the planet is braindead for handing over their craft on a platter for mere dollars.

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Post by robryan »

dakolli wrote: post #398
sgillen wrote: post #226

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I think a lot of people assume they will become highly paid Agent orchestrators or some such. I don't think anyone really knows where things are heading.

Why would someone get paid well for this skill? Its not valuable at all.

Highly valuable right now with how high leverage it can make a good engineer. Who knows for how long.

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Post by timpera »

energy123 wrote: post #505
RachelF wrote: post #473

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Not in my experience with Gemini Pro and coding. It hallucinates APIs that aren't there. Claude does not do that. Gemini has flashes of brilliance, but I regard it as unpolished some things work amazingly, some basics don't work.

It's very hard to tell the difference between bad models and stinginess with compute. I subscribe to both Gemini ($20/mo) and ChatGPT Pro ($200/mo). If I give the same question to "Gemini 3.0 Pro" and "ChatGPT 5.2 Thinking + Heavy thinking", the latter is 4x slower and it gives smarter answers. I shouldn't have to enumerate all the different plausible explanations for this observation. Anything from Gemini deciding t…

You nailed it. Gemini 3 Pro seems very "lazy" and seems to never reason for more than 30 seconds, which significantly impacts the quality of its outputs.

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Post by keithluu »

Cyphase wrote: post #485
dboreham wrote: post #459

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Aren't we saying "lunar new year" now?

I don't think so; there are different lunar calendars.

In fact, many Asian countries use lunisolar calendars, which basically follow the moon for the months but add an extra month every few years so the seasons don't drift.

As these calendars also rely on time zones for date calculation, there are rare occasions where the New Year start date differs by an entire month between 2 countries.

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