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Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Someone1234 wrote: post #47
jazzyjackson wrote: post #44

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Also takes 2 seconds... You don't need 3rd party apps like everyone's saying, only if you want tiling or to copy Windows behavior. Press Control-Up Arrow (or swipe up with three or four fingers) to enter Mission Control, drag a window from Mission Control onto the thumbnail of the full-screen app in the Spaces bar, then click the Split View thumbnail. You can also drag an app thumbnail onto another in the Spaces bar.…

I feel like anyone reading that, and thinking that is a reasonable/intuitive design, may be quite far down the rabbit-hole. It reads like a parody.

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Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by garciansmith »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #57
garciansmith wrote: post #42

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Yeah, it was one of those things I noticed when I first started using Linux and wondered why every other OS didn't just copy it.

Probably just simple resistance to use of modifier keys in non-technical users, at least on the Windows side. A lot of users never touch a modifier except for Ctrl for copy/paste and maybe Windows for start menu search. On the Mac side where key combos and modifier use is more widespread among users, it’s probably because there’s no intuitive visual that can be associated with the interaction.

Oh, I get having a visual way of doing it with just a mouse for sure. But for power users or even just-a-little-bit-of-knowledge users it's super quick and convenient. When I had to use Windows for work it drove me nuts that the option wasn't there (ended up finding AltDrag thankfully).

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by radley »

2bitencryption wrote: post #36

The interesting part, for anyone who actually reads the article - the change was fixed in an RC and then reverted in the final release. Which implies there was some regression, some issue, some incorrect behavior or negative impact. One has to wonder… what could it have been? What could the issue with having a more accurate clickbox for the corner of the window possibly be?

Most likely (and natural): they tested it publically and the response wasn't positive, so they held it back until they could do it better.

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Post by igregoryca »

blindriver wrote: post #100
GuB-42 wrote: post #84

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It can be some technical detail. For example: imagine you have 2 windows, the lower right corner of one window almost touching the upper right corner of the other, so that the bounding rectangles overlap but the graphics don't. With the inaccurate "false square" corners, you just had to check the bounding rectangles, to know which window to resize, now you have to check the actual graphics (or more likely, a mask). I…

Just revert the code back to pre-26! This is ridiculous, it can't possibly be this hard and if it is, it just points to the degradation in the quality of Apple software! This is maddening!

This is already the pre-26 bounding box, isn't it? It's the new graphics that don't line up. (Not a great excuse, but the graphics are here to stay at least for a little while.)

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by tlhunter »

What drives me nuts is if I slam my cursor against the right side of the window with the intent to click and drag the scroll bar of a maximized window up and down then the 1px wide window border gets selected and the whole window moves up and down. This has been a bug for several years.

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Post by msephton »

2bitencryption wrote: post #36

The interesting part, for anyone who actually reads the article - the change was fixed in an RC and then reverted in the final release. Which implies there was some regression, some issue, some incorrect behavior or negative impact. One has to wonder… what could it have been? What could the issue with having a more accurate clickbox for the corner of the window possibly be?

I think it shows how difficult it is to ship a seemingly easy thing inside the Apple machine.

I'm more interested in how or why this bug was approved up be worked on so quickly after it was surfaced, rather than other longstanding and arguably more impactful bugs.

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by ed_mercer »

terhechte wrote: post #77
kiwijamo wrote: post #70

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Agreed. Even Windows has some nice stuff when it comes to windows management IMHO. Every time I end up on macOS I miss the various Windows/GNOME behaviours e.g. window snapping to the right/left half, pressing the Win key to see all open apps, maximise buttons that doesn't put the whole app into full screen mode, etc.

I agree that macOS has become worse, however your examples don't really count: Window snapping was implemented some time ago: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/06/12/macos-sequoia-window-ti... Instead of win key, you can press F3, or just set a hotkey that works for you in the System Preferences Instead of clicking the red maximize button, you can double-click the window header / title. This will use an algorithm to try…

You can also hold ALT and press the green button to mazimze.
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