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Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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post #56

This is a design flub which we are told Jobs simply wouldn't have let out the door. The Jobs who made people shave 50ms off boot times. The Jobs who demanded the no button mouse. I get the cult of Steve is a bit oversold but the proprietor liked to check the finish on the car rolling out the end of the line and if his fingers felt a rough edge on a panel he had no compunction stopping the production line to find the…

"Fixed in post" meaning fixed in version XX.00.2 now. Fire QA and use community feedback seems standard now.

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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post #40

>In total the thickness went down from 7 to 6 pixels, which is a 14% decrease, making it 14% more likely to miss it. Pedantic, but chance of miss is actually less than 14% more likely since the user's click location is not uniformly random over the thickness area, it's biased toward the center (normally distributed).

I had similar thought but didn't want to be that guy.

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Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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>In total the thickness went down from 7 to 6 pixels, which is a 14% decrease, making it 14% more likely to miss it. Pedantic, but chance of miss is actually less than 14% more likely since the user's click location is not uniformly random over the thickness area, it's biased toward the center (normally distributed).

Yeah, and not to mention the increase in likelihood click events the user intends for the application will make it through successfully, rather than being stolen by the window manager.

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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post #2

I’m a Windows guy, but was given a MacBook for my current job. Fair enough. But I laugh at how horrendous such a simple thing as resizing windows is. Want Slack to take up the right third of a screen then fill the rest with browser? In Windows, it takes 2 seconds. Not on Mac. I have to resize the window myself? There’s no auto-snap? I’m sure someone will buzz in with some hidden way to do it. ‘Hold cmd-shft-9 then sa…

The mac desktop works on a totally different paradigm than the Windows-like model most other desktops have adopted. It’s built around not managing windows and instead letting them be whatever size fits their content and pile up like papers on a desk, complete with having relevant bits of some windows peek out from underneath other windows.

For those it works for, it works really well. For those who came from windows always being maximized or split into a grid, it’s a nightmare.

Pretty similar to differences in real world desk styles, actually.

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Since we talk resizing windows, for months I was _sometimes_ unable to resize windows at all, and couldn't figure out why. I thought it was a random bug of macOS.

Finally I realized the issue: if a window spans across two displays, it won't resize. Insane!

(I have an external monitor up, laptop down, and it's easy to move a window such that it stretches a few pixels from monitor to the laptop. No resize for you!)

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

#67
post #40

>In total the thickness went down from 7 to 6 pixels, which is a 14% decrease, making it 14% more likely to miss it. Pedantic, but chance of miss is actually less than 14% more likely since the user's click location is not uniformly random over the thickness area, it's biased toward the center (normally distributed).

I had similar thought but didn't want to be that guy.

My take is sometimes we get paid to be that guy and precision has its place and value.

We get lost when being right is seen as having value - instead of improving clarity and precision if needed in a specific context.

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Since the first taste of Linux WMs, I believe the best and only good way of handling window move and resize is super+lmb/rmb respectively. No more pixel-perfect header/corner sniping! https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/qv0vmz/missing_supe...

Yeah, it was one of those things I noticed when I first started using Linux and wondered why every other OS didn't just copy it.

windows does support [win] + [arrow key] though

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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post #13

It's bad when stock Gnome is better. That's where I am now.

Agreed. Even Windows has some nice stuff when it comes to windows management IMHO. Every time I end up on macOS I miss the various Windows/GNOME behaviours e.g. window snapping to the right/left half, pressing the Win key to see all open apps, maximise buttons that doesn't put the whole app into full screen mode, etc.
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