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Claude Code is being dumbed down?

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Re: Claude Code is being dumbed down?

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VSCode (xterm.js) is one of the worst, but there's a large long tail of slow terminals out there.

Not really using VS Code terminal anymore, just Ubuntu terminal but the biggest problem I have is that at some point Claude just eats up all memory and session crashes. I know it's not really Claude's fault but damn it's annoying.

its not a bad idea to use one of the GPU Terminals on linux just for claude code, it works out a bit better

Re: Claude Code is being dumbed down?

#513

Hey, Boris from the Claude Code team here. I wanted to take a sec to explain the context for this change. One of the hard things about building a product on an LLM is that the model frequently changes underneath you. Since we introduced Claude Code almost a year ago, Claude has gotten more intelligent, it runs for longer periods of time, and it is able to more agentically use more tools. This is one of the magical th…

Just give multiple options in the config file. Give us the current default, what you now call verbose mode and the previous verbose mode. If Claude is as effective as marketing claims then maintaining all 3 options should be trivially doable, we've been doing more complex configuration in tons of apps for decades.

Re: Claude Code is being dumbed down?

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I don't know how to say this but either you haven't written any complex code or your definition of complex and impossible is not the same as mine, or you are "ai hyper booster clickbaiting" (your words). It strains belief that anyone working on a moderate to large project would not have hit the edge cases and issues. Every other day I discover and have to fix a bug that was introduced by Claude/Codex previously (some…

I resent your implication that I am baselessly hyping. I've open sourced a few Opus 4.5-coded projects ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46543359 ) ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46682115 ) that while not moderate-to-large projects, are very niche and novel without much if any prior art. The prompts I used are included with each those projects: they did not "run and look fine" on first run, and were refi…

First, very cool! Thank you for sharing some actual projects with the prompts logged.

I think you and I have different definitions of “one-shotting”. If the model has to be steered, I don’t consider that a one-shot.

And you clearly “broke” the model a few times based on your prompt log where the model was unable to solve the problem given with the spec.

Honestly, your experience in these repos matches my daily experience with these models almost exactly.

I want to see good/interesting work where the model is going off and doing its thing for multiple hours without supervision.

Re: Claude Code is being dumbed down?

#515
Could write a similar post about their cloud UI. Feel like you have so little control over the thing. I think Cursor has an uphill battle by having to go through the API, but they certainly do a better job of making conversations and context more transparent and manageable.

Re: Claude Code is being dumbed down?

#517

Hey, Boris from the Claude Code team here. I wanted to take a sec to explain the context for this change. One of the hard things about building a product on an LLM is that the model frequently changes underneath you. Since we introduced Claude Code almost a year ago, Claude has gotten more intelligent, it runs for longer periods of time, and it is able to more agentically use more tools. This is one of the magical th…

Hi Boris, by far the most upvoted issue at 2550 on your github is "Support AGENTS.md" with 2550 upvotes. The second highest one has 563. Every single other agent supports AGENTS.md. Care to share why you haven't?

> Yoshi and others -- please keep the feedback coming. We want to hear it, and we genuinely want to improve the product in a way that gives great defaults for the majority of users, while being extremely hackable and customizable for everyone else.

I think an issue with 2550 upvotes, more than 4 times of the second-highest, is very clear feedback about your defaults and/or making it customizable.

Re: Claude Code is being dumbed down?

#518

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> We can no longer design for ourselves, and we rely heavily on community feedback to co-design the right experience. We cannot build the right things without that feedback. How can that be true, when you're deliberately and repeatedly telling devs (the community you claim to listen to) that you know better than they do? They're telling you exactly what they want, and you're telling them, "Nah." That isn't listening.…

interesting. they have been pretty receptive to my pull comments and discourse on issues. To each's anecdote I suppose.

https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/6235

Re: Claude Code is being dumbed down?

#519

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> I don't want verbose mode. I want Claude to tell me what it's reading in the first 3 seconds, so I can switch gears without fear it's going to the wrong part of the codebase. By saying that my use case requires verbose mode, you're saying that I need to see massive levels of babysitting-level output (even if less massive than before) to be able to do this. To be clear: we re-purposed verbose mode to do exactly what…

> To be clear: we re-purposed verbose mode to do exactly what you are asking for. We kept the name "verbose mode", but the behavior is what you want, without the other verbose output. Verbose mode feels far too verbose to handle that. It’s also very hard to “keep your place” when toggling into verbose mode to see a specific output.

I think the point bcherny is making in the last few threads is that, the new verbose mode _default_ is not as verbose as it used to be and so it is not "too verbose to handle that". If you want "too verbose", that is still available behind a toggle

Re: Claude Code is being dumbed down?

#520

Hey, Boris from the Claude Code team here. I wanted to take a sec to explain the context for this change. One of the hard things about building a product on an LLM is that the model frequently changes underneath you. Since we introduced Claude Code almost a year ago, Claude has gotten more intelligent, it runs for longer periods of time, and it is able to more agentically use more tools. This is one of the magical th…

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