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Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by viraptor »

EGreg wrote: post #27
cocoto wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could always generate a random face model with real time rendering with enough details to trick any AI detector (or even human) and then you can do real time animation to orders or screen light tricks. You could also simply use some face filter on your face and these ones are really convincing these days (like on Snapchat and such).

Show me such a model. It would be interesting to see a model completely indistinguishable from a real human in behavior, as well as real-time reflection off different surfaces, etc. The next step would be to make a complete digital clone of a person based on surreptitiously recording them with hidden cameras. I doubt it's possible.

The pieces are there. If you're not modifying everything in the image all the time, there's no reason to run it through a visual model. Generate it once (we have it), transform into textured 3d model (we have it), animate and map to movements with vtuber software (we have it). Adding screen colour reflection is trivial. We just need a pipeline for this.

We had facerig for over a decade now. Facefilter recently. It's not hard anymore.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by ziml77 »

digiown wrote: post #79
junon wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I had to prove my passport for my bank over a video call they told me to rotate it around in the sunlight to show that it had the holo-whatever ink. So I wouldn't put it past them.

A call requires a human, which is inherently not scalable. And even humans have trouble distinguishing AI content these days.

And it's not like Discord actually cares. They just care about appearing like they care. Something to keep the heat off of them from regulators and angry parents.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by 0x1ch »

dark-star wrote: post #43
0x1ch wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worked for me as well. Hopefully my account of 11+ years isn't penalized because of this. Not like it matters because I'll quit anyways if forced to send my face or ID.

You probably won't even have to validate then. I guess they can safely assume that you didn't create your account when you were 7 years or younger. They said they expect 80% of users or so to be auto-verified by some other means (account age, typing statistics, whatever)

Wonderful. Hopefully I'm not retroactively banned for things I said when I was fourteen on servers long gone.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#104

Post by nitwit005 »

gclawes wrote: post #65
cocoto wrote: post #4

The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.

Don't Windows Hello camera devices have some kind of hardware attestation? I'm sure verification schemes like this will eventually go down that path soon. My guess is that's probably one of the reasons Google tried to push for Play Store only apps, provide a measurable/verifiable software chain for stuff like this.

That the camera is real doesn't imply the thing it's viewing is real.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#105

Post by dpkirchner »

ddtaylor wrote: post #87
Gigachad wrote: post #75

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Why do middle aged people still use Facebook marketplace rather than another platform? Because even if you put in the effort to use something different, you’ll be the only one there. The effort to coordinate everyone to move at the same time is bordering on impossible.

First mover advantage with network effects

I'm the first and only one of my friend group on my IRC server. It's an elite claim, I know.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#106

Post by 0x1ch »

Retr0id wrote: post #8

Hm, when attempting it I get redirected to https://age-verifier.kibty.town/webview?url=null , which says: {"error":"error parsing webview url"} Edit: Apparently my discord account is in some kind of A/B feature test that uses a different verification provider, Persona

Hopefully your comment gets pushed to the top. Would like the security guys from the blog to see it.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#107

Post by krisoft »

digiown wrote: post #79
junon wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I had to prove my passport for my bank over a video call they told me to rotate it around in the sunlight to show that it had the holo-whatever ink. So I wouldn't put it past them.

A call requires a human, which is inherently not scalable. And even humans have trouble distinguishing AI content these days.

A “video call” perhaps requires a human, but the type of test described need not be a video call. One can imagine a network trained to distinguish a fake id card from real one from a video recorded where the user is asked to move the card such that the holograph is glinting in the sunlight.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#108

Post by michaelt »

cocoto wrote: post #4

The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.

> I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this.

Do platforms want to counter it?

Seems to me with an unreliable video selfie age verification:

* Reasonable people with common sense don't need to upload scans of their driving licenses and passports

* The platform gets to retain users without too much hassle

* Porn site users are forced to create accounts; this enables tracking, boosting ad revenue and growth numbers.

* Politicians get to announce that they have introduced age controls.

* People who claimed age checks wouldn't invade people's privacy don't get proven wrong

* Teens can sidestep the age checks and retain their access; teens trying to hide their porn from their parents is an age-old tradition.

* Parents don't see their teens accessing porn. They feel reassured without having to have any awkward conversations or figure out any baffling smartphone parental controls.

Everyone wins.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#109

Post by hypercube33 »

scarygliders wrote: post #17

It does appear to work. I received a message from Discord saying "We determined you're in the adult group. " narrator> And that's when he discovers his account has now been hacked... ;)

This isn't as fun as using the g-man from half life to verify

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#110

Post by ipdashc »

GaryBluto wrote: post #47
Anonbrit wrote: post #45

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I don't control most of the discord communities I'm in. Some have been going a long time, and every platform migration sheds and shreds members. The 'mild effort' to move an old community to a new platform more often than not killed the community

> and every platform migration sheds and shreds members. What's the problem? You're filtering out people who don't really care about participation in whatever group or society is there. People who want to participate will move to an acceptable service and those who feel that is too much effort probably weren't participating much (if at all) anyway - in that case the only difference is the visible list of people with…

In most cases, I would like to speak with those people and would miss them if I lost regular contact because they didn't want to change platforms.

Most people just care about being able to talk to each other, not their devotion to some "group or society".

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