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It was never going to be perfect. I suspect the goal with things like these is to add additional friction to the process, to make it much harder for the general population to bypass them.
Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
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Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
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There is a way to do this, where nearly everyone is fine.[0]
However, the orgs don’t get to capture verified adult user identity to pad the value of their user data profiles…
[0] https://blog.google/company-news/inside-google/around-the-gl...
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#13doesn't work - request times out.
worked here - as soon as i did it i heard a dm ping from the 'official' discord account...
"We determined you're in the adult age group."
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#14The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.
Actually, there are many ways. For example they change colors on your screen and check in real time how it reflects on your face, eyes, etc. Very hard for a model to be trained to respond this quickly to what's on the screen. They also have you move your head in multiple directions.
You could always generate a random face model with real time rendering with enough details to trick any AI detector (or even human) and then you can do real time animation to orders or screen light tricks. You could also simply use some face filter on your face and these ones are really convincing these days (like on Snapchat and such).
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
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There is a way to do this, where nearly everyone is fine.[0] However, the orgs don’t get to capture verified adult user identity to pad the value of their user data profiles… [0] https://blog.google/company-news/inside-google/around-the-gl...
It seems unlikely that "is user adult" is not already easily modeled by any of these companies to within a very high degree of confidence. Even 15 or 20 years ago Google search could bracket your age pretty effectively. It doesn't seem like this adds metadata that wasn't already there.
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#16The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.
They already support ID checks as an alternative to face scanning, if the latter proves to be untenable then it's literally a case of flipping a switch to mandate ID instead.
And lose every user in the process
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#17It does appear to work. I received a message from Discord saying "We determined you're in the adult group. "
narrator> And that's when he discovers his account has now been hacked...
;)
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#18The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.
You require a human to identity proof in real life and bind that to a digital identity with a strong authenticator. Anti fraud detection systems can suspend or ban if evasion attempts are detected. Perfect is not the target, it doesn’t have to be.
See: Login.gov (USPS offline proofing) and other national identity systems.
(digital identity is a component of my work)
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#19The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.
You require a human to identity proof in real life and bind that to a digital identity with a strong authenticator. Anti fraud detection systems can suspend or ban if evasion attempts are detected. Perfect is not the target, it doesn’t have to be. See: Login.gov (USPS offline proofing) and other national identity systems. (digital identity is a component of my work)
>You require a human to identity proof in real life and bind that to a digital identity
That's going to be a no from me, dawg. I'm sympathetic to ID checks like if you're buying beer or whatever, but not linking my real life identity to discord or whatever.
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#20The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.
You require a human to identity proof in real life and bind that to a digital identity with a strong authenticator. Anti fraud detection systems can suspend or ban if evasion attempts are detected. Perfect is not the target, it doesn’t have to be. See: Login.gov (USPS offline proofing) and other national identity systems. (digital identity is a component of my work)
Which is by nature transient. There are many more and quite dangerous strings attached to doing this online. You never know if all parties involved in the verification are trustworthy.