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Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by arcologies1985 »

jsheard wrote: post #7
cocoto wrote: post #4

The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.

They already support ID checks as an alternative to face scanning, if the latter proves to be untenable then it's literally a case of flipping a switch to mandate ID instead.

They can't feasibly do this in the US since many people don't have drivers licenses or passports.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by toomuchtodo »

gruez wrote: post #19
toomuchtodo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You require a human to identity proof in real life and bind that to a digital identity with a strong authenticator. Anti fraud detection systems can suspend or ban if evasion attempts are detected. Perfect is not the target, it doesn’t have to be. See: Login.gov (USPS offline proofing) and other national identity systems. (digital identity is a component of my work)

>You require a human to identity proof in real life and bind that to a digital identity That's going to be a no from me, dawg. I'm sympathetic to ID checks like if you're buying beer or whatever, but not linking my real life identity to discord or whatever.

Not my call, it’ll be the law of the land. Some may leave, but most won’t, and that’s good enough for corporate and enterprise value purposes.

Pornhub is fighting state age verification and keeps losing state by state, for example.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by kevinh »

cocoto wrote: post #4

The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.

Alternatively, hand someone $20 and your phone and have them do the verification for you.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by 0x1ch »

scarygliders wrote: post #17

It does appear to work. I received a message from Discord saying "We determined you're in the adult group. " narrator> And that's when he discovers his account has now been hacked... ;)

Worked for me as well. Hopefully my account of 11+ years isn't penalized because of this. Not like it matters because I'll quit anyways if forced to send my face or ID.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by wileydragonfly »

gruez wrote: post #19
toomuchtodo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You require a human to identity proof in real life and bind that to a digital identity with a strong authenticator. Anti fraud detection systems can suspend or ban if evasion attempts are detected. Perfect is not the target, it doesn’t have to be. See: Login.gov (USPS offline proofing) and other national identity systems. (digital identity is a component of my work)

>You require a human to identity proof in real life and bind that to a digital identity That's going to be a no from me, dawg. I'm sympathetic to ID checks like if you're buying beer or whatever, but not linking my real life identity to discord or whatever.

Why should anyone inclined to want to buy beer have to show ID to do it?

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by EGreg »

cocoto wrote: post #14
EGreg wrote: post #10

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Actually, there are many ways. For example they change colors on your screen and check in real time how it reflects on your face, eyes, etc. Very hard for a model to be trained to respond this quickly to what's on the screen. They also have you move your head in multiple directions.

You could always generate a random face model with real time rendering with enough details to trick any AI detector (or even human) and then you can do real time animation to orders or screen light tricks. You could also simply use some face filter on your face and these ones are really convincing these days (like on Snapchat and such).

Show me such a model.

It would be interesting to see a model completely indistinguishable from a real human in behavior, as well as real-time reflection off different surfaces, etc.

The next step would be to make a complete digital clone of a person based on surreptitiously recording them with hidden cameras. I doubt it's possible.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by carcabob »

arcologies1985 wrote: post #21
jsheard wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already support ID checks as an alternative to face scanning, if the latter proves to be untenable then it's literally a case of flipping a switch to mandate ID instead.

They can't feasibly do this in the US since many people don't have drivers licenses or passports.

Those without driver's licenses or passports can get a state ID card instead, if I'm not mistaken. A pain, but an option.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by Forgeties79 »

jsheard wrote: post #7
cocoto wrote: post #4

The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.

They already support ID checks as an alternative to face scanning, if the latter proves to be untenable then it's literally a case of flipping a switch to mandate ID instead.

Most people under the driving age don’t have ID’s, at least in the US.
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