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Officials Claim Drone Incursion Led to Shutdown of El Paso Airport

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Post by ranger_danger »

grosswait wrote: post #168
torpfactory wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My read is most likely some kind of strike on the cartels. There hasn’t seemed to be any significant US military buildup so it’s something they’ll be able to do with a smaller force. The trapezoid makes me worried about a ground incision there- it extends to the border and would be a cover space for an invasion force. Absolutely bonkers that we are even having this discussion. The TFR is most likely contingency plann…

You are the first person to mention invasion. Kind of bonkers to jump to that conclusion.

Other commenters here in this thread as well as many people on reddit and other sites about this news are also saying the same thing. Our minds are not as unique as we think :)

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Post by fuzzylightbulb »

spaceywilly wrote: post #271
Trasmatta wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So bizarre Why the 10 day announcement overnight only to totally rescind it before the majority of US citizens wake up and read the news?

Hanlon’s Razor "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Someone probably just screwed up

Their stupidity is a true threat to our lives. Regardless of how you want to classify it we need to remove it as a threat.

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Post by [deleted] »

spaceywilly wrote: post #271
Trasmatta wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So bizarre Why the 10 day announcement overnight only to totally rescind it before the majority of US citizens wake up and read the news?

Hanlon’s Razor "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Someone probably just screwed up

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Post by LanceH »

Trasmatta wrote: post #263
thomasjudge wrote: post #260

Closure rescinded https://x.com/FAANews/status/2021583720465969421

So bizarre Why the 10 day announcement overnight only to totally rescind it before the majority of US citizens wake up and read the news?

If you shut it down for too long and there is a lapse in reopening it, planes are grounded for an extra bit of time.

If you shut it down for too short and there is a lapse in extending the grounding, planes are getting shot out of the sky (or whatever threat it was).

edit: I would add that maybe there are forms for shutting down airspace of various specific time lengths and a convenient time for something of unknown duration would be 10 days. 10 days might also be enough time to be sure whatever resources need to be brought to bear on this are available where an hour or day might not be. Shut it down basically indefinitely, or at least long enough that the crew who handles this extraordinary situation will be on hand to turn it off.

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Post by state_less »

thomasjudge wrote: post #260

Closure rescinded https://x.com/FAANews/status/2021583720465969421

The explanation given is that cartel air drones entered US airspace.

I guess my question is, doesn't this happen all the time? I would think drones would be an easy way to fly a Kilo over the border to whatever dropspot you wanted. I wonder what the new wrinkle is?

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Post by baggachipz »

cozzyd wrote: post #207

During the ICE surge in Chicago drone traffic was banned for a while but this is obviously much more extreme if for a similar reason. Note that at least on some roads out (I'm most familiar with the road to Carlsbad from El Paso since I used to have to travel there in grad school, often from ELP) there are already CBP checkpoints.

El Paso is in a very Red state, ICE involvement is minimal there.

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Post by dylan604 »

dummydummy1234 wrote: post #262
fallingmeat wrote: post #211

guys. it's aliens. nbd.

If it was aliens trump would be telling everyone and taking credit for finally telling the people the truth.

No, he’d be rounding them up and deporting them. Have you not been reading the news lately?

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Post by philistine »

fluidcruft wrote: post #276
Trasmatta wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So bizarre Why the 10 day announcement overnight only to totally rescind it before the majority of US citizens wake up and read the news?

NYT reports they're claiming it was about testing anti-drone tech at Fort Bliss. > The brief shutdown was related to a test of new counter-drone technology by the military at nearby Fort Bliss Army base, according to a person briefed on the matter.

This is ridiculous and patently false. The US is equipped with many bases with permanent air space restrictions where they could perform such tests. It makes less than zero sense to test anti-drone tech in a crowded civilian space. I fully blame incompetence.
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