Setting up a VPS with Node takes ten minutes and is miles cheaper. And it's not like you never have to debug issues with serverless configurations, which can even occasionally be harder to debug because of their proprietary natures.
Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'
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#102Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'
#103What would this have costed had they used render or railway? Maybe, what, $200 a month? Vercel's pricing is so ridiculously convoluted that you can't even cleanly compare usage. With render/railway/(insert provider of choice) you can at least predict that you're your biggest cost is going to be egress. edit: I just saw that it gets 450m pageviews. I'm guessing on the upper end this costs ~$1k with railway + cloudflar…
Railway is getting so good I'm not sure what Vercel brings to the party anyway.
Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'
#104The post said 450 million pageviews, likely since November. If we make very generous assumptions and assume that each pageview is a megabyte (very generous based on my own experience scanning billions of websites), then that's 450TB total in traffic. If you really did 450TB per month in traffic, you would need slightly more than one gigabit line (and hence VPS), but not more than two. With Hetzner the traffic would c…
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#105450 million pageviews on a single 16c/32t OVH box with nginx and a 3 Gbps connection = $245
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn’t it just serving static content and the content fitting in RAM? If so your laptop can serve it just fine even.
A laptop would have a hard time serve thousands of people hitting a single endpoint multiple times a day.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you really think a $30 hetzner host can sustain that level of traffic performantly? Don't get me wrong, I love hetzner, but I would be very surprised if the numbers work out there.
No . Hetzner would terminate your server as you are not a profitable customer.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
With a 2025 tech stack, yes. With a 2005 tech stack, no. Don't use any containers, no[/limited] server-side dynamic script languages, no microservices or anything like that. Considering the content is essentially static, this is actually viable. Search functions might be a bit problematic, but that's a solvable problem. Of course you pay with engineering skills and resources.
SRE here, Containers are not causing any performance problem.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Railway is getting so good I'm not sure what Vercel brings to the party anyway.
While I used to think Railway was an amazing service, I had a production workload get broken because they removed a feature without any depreciation period or warning. I now struggle to recommend it for anything more than a hobby project. Vercel has the benifit of being big enough they have to do things properly. For reference https://station.railway.com/questions/smtp-connection-failur...
It sounds like you were running a production workload on the Hobby plan
Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'
#110Or dump the EML for everyone to import into their own clients.