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Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

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Rather than linking to a threads post that is a screenshot of the x.com post with little to no commentary, we should be linking to the original x.com post https://x.com/rauchg/status/2020984434338693622

or to a nitter instance, where you can actually read responses without signing in:

https://xcancel.com/rauchg/status/2020984434338693622 or https://nitter.net/rauchg/status/2020984434338693622

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

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post #17
post #12

1) Covering the ~$50k hosting bill for Jmail on Vercel sounds generous, but a self-hosted VPS on Hetzner could serve the same purpose for ~€30/month, which is orders of magnitude cheaper and avoids vendor lock-in. 2) This comes as the CEO of Vercel, Guillermo Rauch, is already facing community backlash for publicly supporting Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, a move that’s led to boycotts and migrations off the platf…

Do you really think a $30 hetzner host can sustain that level of traffic performantly? Don't get me wrong, I love hetzner, but I would be very surprised if the numbers work out there.

yes

and if it doesn't spawn up another $30 instance and add another RR entry to the dns

serving static content scales horizontally perfectly

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#23

Rather than linking to a threads post that is a screenshot of the x.com post with little to no commentary, we should be linking to the original x.com post https://x.com/rauchg/status/2020984434338693622

Considering that Twitter doesn't show the original post for non-logged-in users, the screenshot on Threads actually provides a better reading experience for most people!

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#24
post #17
post #12

1) Covering the ~$50k hosting bill for Jmail on Vercel sounds generous, but a self-hosted VPS on Hetzner could serve the same purpose for ~€30/month, which is orders of magnitude cheaper and avoids vendor lock-in. 2) This comes as the CEO of Vercel, Guillermo Rauch, is already facing community backlash for publicly supporting Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, a move that’s led to boycotts and migrations off the platf…

Do you really think a $30 hetzner host can sustain that level of traffic performantly? Don't get me wrong, I love hetzner, but I would be very surprised if the numbers work out there.

For sure, even cheaper if you cache effectively.

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#25

Rather than linking to a threads post that is a screenshot of the x.com post with little to no commentary, we should be linking to the original x.com post https://x.com/rauchg/status/2020984434338693622

Agreed, was slow to load and I just had to find the source post on X to view the real conversation "thread".

This is the first Threads link I've ever seen here. Is that what Threads mainly is, reposting X screenshots and starting a sidechain conversation?

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#26
post #11

Is that good PR? Doesn't seem to be a good idea to be associated with that.

Why wouldn't it be good to be associated with publicly exposing pedophiles, cannibals, murderers, and rapists? That seems to be a very good thing to be opposed to them.

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#27
post #17
post #12

1) Covering the ~$50k hosting bill for Jmail on Vercel sounds generous, but a self-hosted VPS on Hetzner could serve the same purpose for ~€30/month, which is orders of magnitude cheaper and avoids vendor lock-in. 2) This comes as the CEO of Vercel, Guillermo Rauch, is already facing community backlash for publicly supporting Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, a move that’s led to boycotts and migrations off the platf…

Do you really think a $30 hetzner host can sustain that level of traffic performantly? Don't get me wrong, I love hetzner, but I would be very surprised if the numbers work out there.

Isn’t it just serving static content and the content fitting in RAM? If so your laptop can serve it just fine even.

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#28
post #23

Rather than linking to a threads post that is a screenshot of the x.com post with little to no commentary, we should be linking to the original x.com post https://x.com/rauchg/status/2020984434338693622

Considering that Twitter doesn't show the original post for non-logged-in users, the screenshot on Threads actually provides a better reading experience for most people!

You're missing a large part of the conversation and context if you don't at least link to the source.

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#29
post #12

1) Covering the ~$50k hosting bill for Jmail on Vercel sounds generous, but a self-hosted VPS on Hetzner could serve the same purpose for ~€30/month, which is orders of magnitude cheaper and avoids vendor lock-in. 2) This comes as the CEO of Vercel, Guillermo Rauch, is already facing community backlash for publicly supporting Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, a move that’s led to boycotts and migrations off the platf…

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> Ordinary people are not thinking about Israel

roughly 47 percent of a recent US survey think supporting Israel is in the national interest of the United States, while 41 percent disagree. only 12 percent didn't offer an opinion. that's quite a lot of potential customers you're detracting when making a stupid political statement, especially taking a photo with a leader whom 49% of people "have an unfavorable opinion" of

source: https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3932

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#30
post #23

Rather than linking to a threads post that is a screenshot of the x.com post with little to no commentary, we should be linking to the original x.com post https://x.com/rauchg/status/2020984434338693622

Considering that Twitter doesn't show the original post for non-logged-in users, the screenshot on Threads actually provides a better reading experience for most people!

It seems like sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't, and I can only imagine popularity is somehow the reason.
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