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Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by mcmcmc »

alexfromapex wrote: post #274
pibaker wrote: post #209

It is a great irony that the heavy handed push for "protect da kids" is all happening while we learn, day by day, that the richest and most powerful members of our society have no problem hanging out with a convicted child sex trafficker. Rules for thee, free love for me.

People don't realize that all of our problems lately are stemming from lack of truly representative government. Until we find a way to ensure political candidates aren't corrupt and bought off, there will always be corruption, double standards, and lack of accountability from them.

Sometimes I wish we’d bring back tarring and feathering. “People should not be afraid of their governments …” and all that

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Post by IamLoading »

pibaker wrote: post #209

It is a great irony that the heavy handed push for "protect da kids" is all happening while we learn, day by day, that the richest and most powerful members of our society have no problem hanging out with a convicted child sex trafficker. Rules for thee, free love for me.

i am trying to understand why discord is doing this. Is it because of the charlie kirk killer using discord?

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by ZetsuBouKyo »

carshodev wrote: post #726

Both social media and chats need a truly open decentralized protocol that is accessible and usable by the general public. It feels like with clawbot becoming popular that people are open to the idea of self hosting something if it has an easy enough interface. The same thing could be done for social media and messaging. People should hold control over their own content and the application layer should just be content…

to take control of your own content while preventing it from being harvested for ai training, there’s a straightforward method.

- use a browser extension to encrypt comments sent to any social media platform. - by sharing your public key with intended recipients via a third-party channel, the platform only sees gibberish.

this makes ai training impossible, keeps corporations in the dark about your conversations, and ensures that any government surveillance only yields encrypted strings.

however, the platform might ban you as a bot, since this effectively prevents both the company and the government from snooping on your data.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by octoberfranklin »

chmod775 wrote: post #665

> On-device processing: Video selfies for facial age estimation never leave a user’s device. If true, there's little problem with just this from a privacy perspective, but that also makes it useless. Someone is going to make a browser extension to bypass/feed it a fake webcam feed. > Identity documents submitted to our vendor partners are deleted quickly— in most cases, immediately after age confirmation. However if…

No, because they won't do it in a web browser.

It'll be a smartphone app that only works on bootloader-locked devices (iPhones or Google SafetyNet for Android)

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by octoberfranklin »

AJ007 wrote: post #191
rsynnott wrote: post #141

It's kind of surprising that no-one has really come out with a proper privacy-preserving approach to this yet. It is clearly _possible_; there are reasonable-looking designs for this. But no-one's doing it; they're just collecting photos and IDs, and then leaking them all over the place.

It is only a matter of time before ID verification means the camera is always on watching the face of the person looking at the screen.

That's why I put black tape over my front-facing camera.

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Post by almosthere »

cheschire wrote: post #228

I deleted my Facebook account in 2011. After finding out how much critical neighborhood information I have been missing, I finally registered a new Facebook account fifteen years later to follow my neighborhood groups. A month later, the account was suspended for supposedly breaking guidelines. I never posted a single message, never reacted to any posts. They then required me to upload a video scan of my face to prov…

Try to remind your neighbors that you can go outside and talk to people to share news of the hood

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Post by bdlowery »

tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

so instead of discord, google, meta having access to private convos... we should all switch to Zulip and have Zulip being the one with access to those convos? Or join someones self hosted instance and let them have access to those convos?

I am confused.

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Post by reciprocity »

sankhao wrote: post #675
tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Thanks for your work. Moved my company from Slack to self-hosted Zulip after Salesforce unilaterally decided to transfer our account to Alibaba Cloud and the transition has been very smooth. We especially appreciate proper markdown support !

Wow what the hell, Salesforce.

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Post by robocat »

snohobro wrote: post #253
cheschire wrote: post #228

I deleted my Facebook account in 2011. After finding out how much critical neighborhood information I have been missing, I finally registered a new Facebook account fifteen years later to follow my neighborhood groups. A month later, the account was suspended for supposedly breaking guidelines. I never posted a single message, never reacted to any posts. They then required me to upload a video scan of my face to prov…

Ironically, this may be one of the many straws that breaks the proverbial internet camel’s back. We all wax and wane about the old internet, the pre-homogenized, non-corporate, Wild West internet. Perhaps these constant restrictions will finally spur us to create our own spaces again Our own little groups that exist independent of the corpo-sphere. The only reason ‘the way things used to be’ went away was because the…

> Perhaps these constant restrictions will finally spur us to create our own spaces again

We had forums using forum software but moderating the spam got too hard. If you create your own space using any common software platform then you'll be pwned (a la PHP-Nuke et al). I presume even pure custom web pages would end in tears these days (DoS complaints seem to be a more recent reason; also Bot form submission is pretty good at being bad).

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