Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

theverge.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

661–670 of 1001 posts

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#661

Post by aussieguy1234 »

I'm based in Australia and had to do this early shortly before the teen social media ban came into place here.

I chose the face scan option as I simply don't trust most providers when it comes to uploading my ID. Countless data breaches have happened over the years where driver's license and passport details have been stolen from databases.

For those unaware, a driver's license is often referred to as the "golden ticket" for identity thieves. A single license usually contains all the information needed to open credit in that person's name.

Yes, they will claim their process is super secure, and they take security seriously. But then again, they all say that.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#662

Post by sipjca »

MiddleEndian wrote: post #68

I talk to three people on Discord. If I have to choose between A) giving Discord my ID, B) giving Discord a fraudulent ID, or C) just chatting with them on some other program, I'll just go with C. If I cared about Discord more I guess I'd figure out B. May get started with C ahead of time anyway.

this is hilarious, person who barely uses service says he will leave the service, what a concept

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#663

Post by Bender »

dgxyz wrote: post #325

My social group are moving to a private IRC server already. This is probably the best outcome really. I don't think any of us are under 50. But we have relatives who remember when this would have resulted in some of us being killed. I wish I was sensationalising but I'm not.

For the happy-clicky-emoji types one can put TheLounge [1] or Convos [2] or other web front-ends [3] in front of IRC. They don't scale as well but it would allow for those that don't care for the underlying IRC network. If it does not exist yet there is probably a way to write in a voice chat link handler for Mumble. It's a separate app but very low CPU/memory footprint and maybe that could weed out some low quality members.

[1] - https://thelounge.chat/

[2] - https://convos.chat/

[3] - https://ircv3.net/software/clients#web-clients

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#664

Post by LastTrain »

tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

You are referring to yourself as an “organization”, can you define that precisely?

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#665

Post by chmod775 »

> On-device processing: Video selfies for facial age estimation never leave a user’s device.

If true, there's little problem with just this from a privacy perspective, but that also makes it useless. Someone is going to make a browser extension to bypass/feed it a fake webcam feed.

> Identity documents submitted to our vendor partners are deleted quickly— in most cases, immediately after age confirmation.

However if they ask me to submit my ID to any third party, I'd sooner ditch discord. My default assumption is that this will get leaked, tying everyone's discord account to their real identity publicly. Discord seems to have halfway decent opsec, but I don't trust their "vendor partners" at all. I'll try submitting a fake ID, but if I get banned for it, then so be it.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#666

Post by altairprime »

chmod775 wrote: post #665

> On-device processing: Video selfies for facial age estimation never leave a user’s device. If true, there's little problem with just this from a privacy perspective, but that also makes it useless. Someone is going to make a browser extension to bypass/feed it a fake webcam feed. > Identity documents submitted to our vendor partners are deleted quickly— in most cases, immediately after age confirmation. However if…

This would, most likely, go hand in hand with “Discord is no longer allowed on rooted devices” and “Discord desktop is disallowed from client-side effort”, given the necessity of attestation to make it viable on mobile and the near-total absence of third parties taking advantage of the necessary protections on desktop.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#668

Post by wellthisisgreat »

tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

LOVE Zulip!

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#669

Post by mcv »

I'm not necessarily opposed to age restrictions, but letting each website figure out its own age verification system is a terrible idea. Uploading your ID to lots of websites opens you up to identity theft.

Any government that demands age verification from websites, should offer an eID system where each site can redirect you for the age verification. That way random sites don't have to worry about handling sensitive data.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#670

Post by Seattle3503 »

thinkingemote wrote: post #489
pibaker wrote: post #209

It is a great irony that the heavy handed push for "protect da kids" is all happening while we learn, day by day, that the richest and most powerful members of our society have no problem hanging out with a convicted child sex trafficker. Rules for thee, free love for me.

Peter Mandelson was pushing very hard for digital ID cards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_Cards_Act_2006

A good implementation of digital ID can do things like verify age while respecting privacy.
Post reply on HN