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Re: Show HN: Taurus.io - Create a product tour for your web app in 15 minutes

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Post by ebzlo »

eranation wrote: post #28

Feature request that will make this much more valuable - relative adjustment, if you can create a tooltip that will stay near a selector (regardless of browser resizes) and will be responsive (e.g. size and font will adapt based on size) then you'll have something worth not 3$ but 30$ a month easily. I like that you demo the usage of the tool rather than the end result, but for some people it might be too cumbersome,…

This was originally in our plan for beta launch, but we yanked it to get something out faster. It's definitely in the pipeline. :)

Re: Show HN: Taurus.io - Create a product tour for your web app in 15 minutes

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Post by Jarshwah »

Looks really great, congratulations.

A few things I picked up on though:

1. Couldn't toggle Absolute/Relative after I had placed a tooltip.

2. If you position your tooltip then click the "Display Next Button", the arrow moves, but the positioning stays the same (with a side arrow). Just a UI bug.

3. Instructions on the syntax to use for javascript event field.

4. Binding to an element would be nice.

5. Having the "Next" button move on to the next tooltip, hiding the old, and displaying the next. I think I'd like to use that flow rather than seeing all the tips at once.

Re: Show HN: Taurus.io - Create a product tour for your web app in 15 minutes

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Post by ebzlo »

Jarshwah wrote: post #32

Looks really great, congratulations. A few things I picked up on though: 1. Couldn't toggle Absolute/Relative after I had placed a tooltip. 2. If you position your tooltip then click the "Display Next Button", the arrow moves, but the positioning stays the same (with a side arrow). Just a UI bug. 3. Instructions on the syntax to use for javascript event field. 4. Binding to an element would be nice. 5. Having the "Ne…

Thanks! We'll look into those issues; additionally, we'll be adding a bind to element feature in the future.

Re: Show HN: Taurus.io - Create a product tour for your web app in 15 minutes

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Post by dchuk »

ebzlo wrote: post #11
therealarmen wrote: post #8

Cool product! Congrats on launching. I can think of several companies off the top of my head who should implement this yesterday. But I have to take issue with the price point. $3 a month? If you're doing it for fun, make it free. Otherwise, the price should be 10x if not 100x your current rate. Trust me, if someone is going to go through the effort of setting up your product, they'll be willing to pay more than $3 a…

Thanks! The problem with being 10x or 100x the current rate is that we can't actually justify that cost for the value we provide. When we set the price point, we basically asked ourselves how much we'd actually pay for the same thing.

I don't mean this in an insulting way, but you're wrong here. You don't think a product tour that potentially hundreds if not thousands of people use and can significantly increase your customers' ROI is worth more than a Big Mac a month?

Come on now, don't fall into the trendy startup blackhole of improper pricing. Charge.For.This. Make a lot of money. Build in analytics. Prove your value.

Re: Show HN: Taurus.io - Create a product tour for your web app in 15 minutes

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Post by ebzlo »

dchuk wrote: post #34
ebzlo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! The problem with being 10x or 100x the current rate is that we can't actually justify that cost for the value we provide. When we set the price point, we basically asked ourselves how much we'd actually pay for the same thing.

I don't mean this in an insulting way, but you're wrong here. You don't think a product tour that potentially hundreds if not thousands of people use and can significantly increase your customers' ROI is worth more than a Big Mac a month? Come on now, don't fall into the trendy startup blackhole of improper pricing. Charge.For.This. Make a lot of money. Build in analytics. Prove your value.

No offense taken. Everybody here is completely right. We're going to change our pricing as soon as we step out of our closed beta.

Re: Show HN: Taurus.io - Create a product tour for your web app in 15 minutes

#37

Post by redguava »

ebzlo wrote: post #14
redguava wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$9/month at the cheapest.

Cheapest? Or most? Edit: Based on what everyone else is saying, I've assumed you indeed meant to say cheapest.

I meant cheapest. Also, I saw your comment above about once you are out of beta. I wouldn't wait. Set it at $9 or above and see what happens.

The longer you leave it at $3, the more expensive it will look when you raise it (and I really think you should raise it).

Re: Show HN: Taurus.io - Create a product tour for your web app in 15 minutes

#38

Post by ebzlo »

runako wrote: post #25
ebzlo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! The problem with being 10x or 100x the current rate is that we can't actually justify that cost for the value we provide. When we set the price point, we basically asked ourselves how much we'd actually pay for the same thing.

What others have said, plus: I don't trust you to stay in business at $3/mo. You may deliver an awesome product, but I simply don't believe the economics will work at all for $3/month. At best, you'll cut corners and your service will start to suck. This makes me much less likely to put you in the critical path of my business. So charge more and make everybody happy! Suggestion: segment on the complexity of the produ…

Great suggestions! # of steps included is something we haven't thought to implement, will do!

Re: Show HN: Taurus.io - Create a product tour for your web app in 15 minutes

#39

Post by ebzlo »

redguava wrote: post #37
ebzlo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheapest? Or most? Edit: Based on what everyone else is saying, I've assumed you indeed meant to say cheapest.

I meant cheapest. Also, I saw your comment above about once you are out of beta. I wouldn't wait. Set it at $9 or above and see what happens. The longer you leave it at $3, the more expensive it will look when you raise it (and I really think you should raise it).

Alright. Done. I'm setting at $9. Updated now.

Re: Show HN: Taurus.io - Create a product tour for your web app in 15 minutes

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Post by ebzlo »

knes wrote: post #36

what's the different with using Bootstrap tour ( https://github.com/sorich87/bootstrap-tour ) or Joyride ( http://www.zurb.com/playground/jquery-joyride-feature-tour-p... ) for example?

When we worked on a previous project, bootstrap was something we based our product tour off. Joyride, similarly, accomplishes the same deal with a little more fluff. However, there were a few things that were tedious.

- Keeping track of who has seen what tooltip, when they should show up, backend type stuff.

- When things moved around, layouts modified slightly, they were a pain to update. Granted it wasn't always the case, but it was enough that we decided we ought to build a front end to handle it. And thus, Taurus was born.

We realized that while engineering the product tour isn't hard, it takes time to make and maintain, and that we could help solve that.

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