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OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by colecut »

keyle wrote: post #78

people are buying Mac Minis specifically to run AI agents with computer use. They’re setting up headless machines whose sole job is to automate their workflows. OpenClaw—the open-source framework that lets you run Claude, GPT-4, or whatever model you want to actually control your computer—has become the killer app for Mac hardware That makes little sense. Buying mac mini would imply for the fused v-ram with the gpu c…

I have seen dozens of people/videos talking about buying Mac minis for clawdbot.

I don't understand why, but I've seen it enough to start questioning myself...

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by fennecbutt »

lukevp wrote: post #18
calvinmorrison wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple literally lives on the "Cutting Edge" a-la XKCD [1]. My wife is an iPerson and she always tells me about these new features (my phone has had them since $today-5 years). But for her, these are brand new exciting things! https://xkcd.com/606/

How many chat products has Google come out with? Google messenger, buzz, wave, meet, Google+, hangouts… Apple has iMessage and FaceTime. You just restated OP’s point. Apple evolves things slowly and comes to market when the problems have already been solved in a myriad of ways, so they can be solved once and consistently. It’s not about coming to market soonest. How did you get that from what OP said?

Pointless argument given that android isn't just "android". Never has been.

It's a huge, diverse ecosystem of players and that's probably why Android has always gotten the coolest stuff first. But it's also its achilles' heel in some ways.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by MPSimmons »

keyle wrote: post #78

people are buying Mac Minis specifically to run AI agents with computer use. They’re setting up headless machines whose sole job is to automate their workflows. OpenClaw—the open-source framework that lets you run Claude, GPT-4, or whatever model you want to actually control your computer—has become the killer app for Mac hardware That makes little sense. Buying mac mini would imply for the fused v-ram with the gpu c…

The software can drive the web browser if you install the plugin. My knowledge is 1.5 weeks old, so it might be able to drive the whole UI now, I don't know.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by bronco21016 »

keyle wrote: post #78

people are buying Mac Minis specifically to run AI agents with computer use. They’re setting up headless machines whose sole job is to automate their workflows. OpenClaw—the open-source framework that lets you run Claude, GPT-4, or whatever model you want to actually control your computer—has become the killer app for Mac hardware That makes little sense. Buying mac mini would imply for the fused v-ram with the gpu c…

If you’re heavily invested in Apple apps (iMessage/Calendar/Reminders/Notes), you need a Mac to give the agent tools to interact with these apps. I think that combined with the form factor, price, and power consumption, makes it an ideal candidate.

If you’re heavily invested in Windows, then you’d probably go for a small x86 PC.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by DrewADesign »

bee_rider wrote: post #28
throwaway613746 wrote: post #4

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It is absurd enough of a project that everybody basically expects it to be secure, right? It is some wild niche thing for people who like to play with new types of programs. This is not a train that Apple has missed, this is a bunch of people who’ve tied, nailed, tacked, and taped their unicycles and skateboards together. Of course every cool project starts like that, but nobody is selling tickets for that ride.

I think a lot of people have been spoiled (beneficially) by using large, professionally-run SaaS services where your only serious security concerns were keeping your credentials secret, and mitigating the downstream effects of data breaches. I could see having a fundamentally different understanding of security having only experienced that.

What people are talking about doing with OpenClaw I find absolutely insane.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Post by fennecbutt »

dangus wrote: post #73
calvinmorrison wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple literally lives on the "Cutting Edge" a-la XKCD [1]. My wife is an iPerson and she always tells me about these new features (my phone has had them since $today-5 years). But for her, these are brand new exciting things! https://xkcd.com/606/

A very tired “red versus blue” take here. There are plenty of Android/Windows things that Apple has had for $today-5 years that work the exact same way. One side isn’t better than the other, it’s really just that they copy each other doing various things at a different pace or arrive at that point in different ways. Some examples: - Android is/was years behind on granular permissions, e.g. ability to grant limited ph…

Android is an OS, not hardware tho so some of those can't really be judged equivalently.

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Post by wetpaws »

crazygringo wrote: post #10

> This is exactly what Apple Intelligence should have been... They could have shipped an agentic AI that actually automated your computer instead of summarizing your notifications. Imagine if Siri could genuinely file your taxes, respond to emails, or manage your calendar by actually using your apps, not through some brittle API layer that breaks every update. And this is probably coming, a few years from now. Becaus…

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