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Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by palmotea »

darth_avocado wrote: post #44
dinobones wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you blame them for existing during early globalization, before over the financialization of everything? It's not like they actively took more than they "should have" from anyone directly, it's a consequence of their local economy and where it was at the time.

> It's not like they actively took more than they "should have" from anyone directly And who do you think exactly contributed to the over financialization of everything? Every single thing, good or bad, is a direct result of the actions of the generation before. We can thank them for creating a world where women get to vote but also criticize them for creating a world where everything costs a million dollars and all…

> And who do you think exactly contributed to the over financialization of everything? Every single thing, good or bad, is a direct result of the actions of the generation before.

Some elements of the generation before. It's is exceedingly unhelpful the blame an entire generation for the actions of a few. There were some elite people with a plan, many more who bought the propaganda they were served, and a lot who had nothing to do with any of it.

Also, it's worth noting (to help build empathy) that you and me likely have been suckered by propaganda for things that the next generation will curse us for, but we just think we're being sensible and informed.

The least you could do is blame an ideological faction of that generation (e.g. neoliberals), rather than blaming the whole generation itself. Among many advantages, that names the problem in a way that can solve it.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by dinobones »

darth_avocado wrote: post #44
dinobones wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you blame them for existing during early globalization, before over the financialization of everything? It's not like they actively took more than they "should have" from anyone directly, it's a consequence of their local economy and where it was at the time.

> It's not like they actively took more than they "should have" from anyone directly And who do you think exactly contributed to the over financialization of everything? Every single thing, good or bad, is a direct result of the actions of the generation before. We can thank them for creating a world where women get to vote but also criticize them for creating a world where everything costs a million dollars and all…

Has any society ever behaved that way? It's already a push to get people to think of the middle/lower classes during the present.

I understand the desire to find an entity or group of people to blame, but they were acting in their own self interest at a peak time, they didn't know the party would be over soon, for many of them, it still isn't.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by lp4v4n »

Chronic housing shortage, peak social competition, education and labor cratering in value, inability to find a job despite advanced degrees, above average salaries that don't pay the cost of living, "once in a lifetime crisis" after crisis, art(cinema, music, etc) in decline, politically deadlocked society... The list is long.

I always find it funny to read the statistics about how life has never been easier when society is in clear disarray and the opportunities that existed just a few decades ago simply evaporated.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by daseiner1 »

nickez wrote: post #43
daseiner1 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of the boogeymen you mentioned are strands of a singular issue, a singular phenomenon.

losing the gold standard 1971?

when the ruling principles are growth, consumption, and profit, the ability to invent money tends to be quite appealing.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by enemyz0r »

cosmic_quanta wrote: post #45
daseiner1 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of the boogeymen you mentioned are strands of a singular issue, a singular phenomenon.

What is that singular phenomenon? What can result in blaming both capitalism and socialism, for example?

Displacing God as the center of life.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by dinobones »

kridsdale1 wrote: post #40
dinobones wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you blame them for existing during early globalization, before over the financialization of everything? It's not like they actively took more than they "should have" from anyone directly, it's a consequence of their local economy and where it was at the time.

They didn’t passively exist during it. They implemented it. They are culpable.

There are 67 million baby boomers in the US. How can you rationally blame them all? Roughly 20% of the population.

Saying the "boomers ruined everything" is not sophisticated, we can't move forward from a blame game, we have to diagnose the actions and actors that implemented them, but of course this is much more challenging.

Ancedotally, I know plenty of poor boomers. Have you seen who works at a Dollar Tree lately?

The popular dialogue that boomer=rich and greedy, millennial=poor and exploited is not productive, it's a fabricated generational war that distracts us from the real issues.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by sejje »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #14
sejje wrote: post #4

I don't have a source, but I've been hearing that this is just common among young people everywhere. They blamed social media for Americans.

Among young people everywhere and everywhen? I would guess that young people were less satisfied with life than older folks in most every time period.

No, sorry -- I've heard the current crop of young people worldwide is reporting lower life satisfaction, high rates of mental health issues, etc

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by cal_dent »

Scratch the surface a little bit and it’s always comes down to housing/living costs.

More than enough work out there actually pays well in isolation to live a decent full life, it’s just relatively local housing costs it probably sucks.

And not just for young people. We’re fully in an environment where how good and flexible your life is is highly dependent on when you bought a home, or if you own a home.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by lysace »

nonameiguess wrote: post #50
lysace wrote: post #3

Clickbait/editorializing in submission title. Also: Paper doesn't robustly support this statement. The actual title of the paper: "Flourishing in Sweden: Great overall — but not for all" But the poster clearly knows what kind of title makes a post fly.

This was posted to Reddit's r/science five hours or so before the submission here, under roughly the same title but longer since Reddit allows longer titles. I'm sure they just saw it made r/all over there and figured copying it over more or less verbatim would achieve the same engagement as everyone plays with their favorite bugaboos about old people and maybe 3 people out of 100 wonder if the effect is consistent t…

So it's a litmus test of HN. Better than Reddit or not?
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