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Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by daseiner1 »

colechristensen wrote: post #39
daseiner1 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

meaningfully, this is equivalent to the parent commenter. "technology" I loathe the "pop critique" employment of the phrase, but this is definitionally late-stage capitalism. obviously capitalism is named as such because it is founded upon the concept of (private) capital. capital serves to lower margins and increase profitability. it has been remarkably successful and has immensely raised QoL for virtually the plane…

It's got nothing to do with that. People that don't need it are hoarding wealth. It's real estate value all the way down. Apartments getting tinier while getting more expensive, homes being out of reach or taking up an enormous amount of total pay in order to finance. People who own aren't living off their own labor's fruits saved for the future but on the massively increased value they're selling something they didn…

I don't believe we disagree.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by daseiner1 »

SimianSci wrote: post #34
daseiner1 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

meaningfully, this is equivalent to the parent commenter. "technology" I loathe the "pop critique" employment of the phrase, but this is definitionally late-stage capitalism. obviously capitalism is named as such because it is founded upon the concept of (private) capital. capital serves to lower margins and increase profitability. it has been remarkably successful and has immensely raised QoL for virtually the plane…

The answer is and always has been "paperclips." without human influence or directive, capital ceases to be become anything meaningful beyond [insert data type] at which point, it spreads like a cancer, ie: universal paperclips Capitalism is revered due to how it has significantly impacted the living standards of populations that participate in it. But increasing the living standards of populations was never the purpo…

Indeed. It is a blind force of nature.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by nickez »

daseiner1 wrote: post #18
seneca wrote: post #8

This is one of those topics where everyone is going to insert their personal bête noire as the cause. "Tech, the economy, culture, immigrants, loss of religion, corruption, polarization, capitalism, socialism!". I actually really like threads like this, since it's a good way to get a pulse on what the different discontentment topics are at any given time.

All of the boogeymen you mentioned are strands of a singular issue, a singular phenomenon.

losing the gold standard 1971?

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by darth_avocado »

dinobones wrote: post #36
polishdude20 wrote: post #24

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It's the baby boomer phenomenon. They reaped the rewards back then and are still reaping the rewards. The benefits have been following that age group through their lives. Its like a rolling window.

Can you blame them for existing during early globalization, before over the financialization of everything? It's not like they actively took more than they "should have" from anyone directly, it's a consequence of their local economy and where it was at the time.

> It's not like they actively took more than they "should have" from anyone directly

And who do you think exactly contributed to the over financialization of everything? Every single thing, good or bad, is a direct result of the actions of the generation before. We can thank them for creating a world where women get to vote but also criticize them for creating a world where everything costs a million dollars and all young people can earn is pennies. At any point in time they could’ve been like “this may not in my selfish interest, but it will ensure the future generations can have the same life as i do” and pushed for policies accordingly. But that didn’t happen.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by cosmic_quanta »

daseiner1 wrote: post #18
seneca wrote: post #8

This is one of those topics where everyone is going to insert their personal bête noire as the cause. "Tech, the economy, culture, immigrants, loss of religion, corruption, polarization, capitalism, socialism!". I actually really like threads like this, since it's a good way to get a pulse on what the different discontentment topics are at any given time.

All of the boogeymen you mentioned are strands of a singular issue, a singular phenomenon.

What is that singular phenomenon? What can result in blaming both capitalism and socialism, for example?

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by bryanlarsen »

Ensorceled wrote: post #37
bryanlarsen wrote: post #29

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Really? I would expect people at risk of being drafted during a war being much less happy than older people not at risk.

Why would you be worried about being drafted during a war AFTER the war?

Sorry, misread your original comment. But it seems to me that young people in the 50's and 60's (aka the golden age most Americans think of) where much more dissatisfied than older people -- the 60's were notorious for protests.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by dotdi »

dinobones wrote: post #36
polishdude20 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the baby boomer phenomenon. They reaped the rewards back then and are still reaping the rewards. The benefits have been following that age group through their lives. Its like a rolling window.

Can you blame them for existing during early globalization, before over the financialization of everything? It's not like they actively took more than they "should have" from anyone directly, it's a consequence of their local economy and where it was at the time.

You _can_ blame them for several high-impact things they willingly did or at least supported, e.g. benefiting greatly from public spending yet successively voting to restrict it later on; f*cking over the real estate market and squeezing younger generations with extreme rents/prices; refusing any kind of social reforms while it has been obvious for decades that current models don't scale; decoupling of productivity from wages; and last but not least racking up huge carbon debt that later generations will pay dearly for.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by marcosdumay »

trgn wrote: post #35
polishdude20 wrote: post #24

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It's the baby boomer phenomenon. They reaped the rewards back then and are still reaping the rewards. The benefits have been following that age group through their lives. Its like a rolling window.

somewhat tangential, but most interesting phenomeon is the phaseshift non-boomers will undergo when they're around 45, surveying what's left, realizing how much they have paid into the system already, and desperate to claim the same rewards. it's a perpetuum mobile. if it needs to end, the young will have to wrestle it from their seniors _now_, because that gap closes fast.

Most developed countries are peaking in costs to young people right now. The people entering workforce now are getting a huge bad surprise, but the cost of supporting older people will start to decrease very soon.

So, if you are looking for some future phase shift, you are searching for the wrong thing.

Also, most of the developing countries will be in that situation in ~20 years. Most underdeveloped ones will get there in an extra decade or two.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by PassingClouds »

bojan wrote: post #9
nish__ wrote: post #5

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I'd blame technology altogether. People are losing their purpose.

I'd blame the ever decreasing ratio between salaries and the cost of living. And the fact that salaries don't really grow for years now, while the productivity, and so the generated wealth, does.

I have said for a long time that if housing was cheaper, that is a good start to getting other thing under control. It gives folks a target to hit for stability. Once a bit more stable, it frees up opportunities to address other issues.

I say this as a home owner, let the market crash, I dont care what my house is valued as it is an asset not an investment.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by nonameiguess »

lysace wrote: post #3

Clickbait/editorializing in submission title. Also: Paper doesn't robustly support this statement. The actual title of the paper: "Flourishing in Sweden: Great overall — but not for all" But the poster clearly knows what kind of title makes a post fly.

This was posted to Reddit's r/science five hours or so before the submission here, under roughly the same title but longer since Reddit allows longer titles. I'm sure they just saw it made r/all over there and figured copying it over more or less verbatim would achieve the same engagement as everyone plays with their favorite bugaboos about old people and maybe 3 people out of 100 wonder if the effect is consistent that young people are just generally less happy than older people regardless of the specific time at which you ask.
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