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The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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If true, unlikely to help the working poor flying (or attempting to fly) because recourse to courts here is in the realms of the rich or benificent. So, Frommers should fund a test case.

It’s annoying we don’t offer passport cards for free to people as a national government credential. The cost is similar to this fee, and your app and photo could be taken by TSA right at the checkpoint. You head to your flight after identity proofed, and your passport card could then be mailed to you. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-pa...

It is, but I think that's a separate issue. There's no authorization, let alone a mandate, to prove identity to move about. The mission, ostensibly, is to make air travel safe by ensuring that passengers don't bring dangerous items onto the plane. It's not to track who is going where.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #2

If true, unlikely to help the working poor flying (or attempting to fly) because recourse to courts here is in the realms of the rich or benificent. So, Frommers should fund a test case.

How many of the “working poor” can afford to fly and don’t have a drivers license? All 50 states and 5 US territories issue RealID compliant drivers license/ID

> How many of the “working poor” can afford to fly and don’t have a drivers license?

What he really means is illegals who have fake ids who now can't get RealIDs.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #12

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And also provide an API for online services to use so we are not beholden to Alphabet and Apple. And while they’re at it, provide an electronic money account that allows for free and instant transfers. But then how would we waste so many societal resources letting investors profit from basic infrastructure?

I'm sure some young guns from a techbro company would love to dive into the data lake and make a proposal. They might need to take a few reels of tape away for offsite analysis, but don't worry..

The reels of tape already exist at Apple/Alphabet/Tmobile/ATT/Verizon/Meta/Microsoft/Chase/BoA/etc, subject to secret FISA warrants. What difference does it make?

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #35

Explain to me how qualified immunity is better than any ill it is supposed to address? And how is it that if you sue the government and win, then the judgement doesn't automatically award reasonable legal fees?

Especially when the implication in the article is the police tried to delete a video from evidence -- and still ended up getting to hide behind qualified immunity.

Ugh.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #32

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The $45 pays for extra checks and scrutiny.

I'm almost positive they get paid the same at the end of the day either way and the $45 just lines the pockets of someone on the top.

Do you not see how an organization discouraging the use of something inefficient benefits as a whole?

Thats why cashless businesses exist, why you pay more for things that involve human attention instead of automated online solutions etc.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

#46
post #37

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How many of the “working poor” can afford to fly and don’t have a drivers license? All 50 states and 5 US territories issue RealID compliant drivers license/ID

RealID licenses cost extra where I live. Your job can buy you a plane ticket but they can't get you through TSA.

If your job wants you to fly, it should buy you an id that lets you fly. Have you never applied for a visa to travel on a business trip?

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #33

It's a real head-scratcher that the cohort that claims government ID is unattainable for some people hasn't taken up this issue. "Real ID" isn't something that is just delivered to you. Now we're going to charge money not to have it?

In my state Real ID is just delivered to you.

It used to cost $10 for a replacement ID printed in the DMV. Now I pay $25 for a third-party vendor to line their pockets and mail me a new ID weeks later!

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s annoying we don’t offer passport cards for free to people as a national government credential. The cost is similar to this fee, and your app and photo could be taken by TSA right at the checkpoint. You head to your flight after identity proofed, and your passport card could then be mailed to you. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-pa...

You could even double them up as government issued voter-ID and save all that hassle every 4 years. Or the current round of random stop-and-search going on...

"government issued voter-ID"

Gasp! Checking for IDs while voting is fascist! It's like Germany 1937.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #35

Explain to me how qualified immunity is better than any ill it is supposed to address? And how is it that if you sue the government and win, then the judgement doesn't automatically award reasonable legal fees?

Two separate things. Qualified immunity is just immunity from individual liability afforded to government agents when conducting government business, as long as they are conducting it properly.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many of the “working poor” can afford to fly and don’t have a drivers license? All 50 states and 5 US territories issue RealID compliant drivers license/ID

RealID licenses cost extra where I live. Your job can buy you a plane ticket but they can't get you through TSA.

Are you saying our state offers both RealID and none RealID driver’s licenses?
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