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Ask HN: Do you also "hoard" notes/links but struggle to turn them into actions?

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Re: Ask HN: Do you also "hoard" notes/links but struggle to turn them into actions?

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I just use Logseq and put double brackets around my key terms. Whenever I need to revisit a topic, I can quickly review what I've a already learned about it, when, and what else it was connected to. My understanding is that Obsidian is pretty similar? The point of my PKM isn't to turn my notes into shipped things. The point of my PKM is that when I do want to work on something, I don't have to repeat all my old mista…

Totally get that — that’s a great PKM goal: not “ship from notes”, but “don’t re-derive everything from scratch next time”. And yes, Logseq/Obsidian-style wikilinks are really good at building that personal context graph. The thing I’m trying to validate isn’t “everyone should convert notes into tasks”, it’s whether there’s a subset of people who also want help with re-entry when they do decide to work on something:…

At the bottom of each Logseq page, there's a "Linked References" section that just lists every use of that page tag in reverse chronological order. I can collapse any heading if I want. I can review it very quickly and find out what I thought was important last time I was working on that topic. I can also filter by other tags so I can narrow it down to "[[this tag]] and also [[this other tag]]" if my interest is something specific.

Works great for my purposes. Doesn't need any improvement for my use.

Re: Ask HN: Do you also "hoard" notes/links but struggle to turn them into actions?

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I don't think I'm your survey target, as cost/benefit fails all along that "second brain" pipeline have so far prevented my non-trivially adopting one into my extended mind. But thank you for surfacing a "now with LLMs and speech-to-text, I should revisit". Like a git docs dir, a "second brain"-ish pkm fragment might be a fruitful setting for LLM communication/collaboration/RAG.

I appreciate the framing. I think a lot of “second brain” attempts fail the cost/benefit test unless there’s a very specific, narrow use case. The “git docs dir / pkm fragment” idea is exactly the kind of wedge that feels realistic to me: a small, scoped corpus with clear boundaries, where an LLM can be useful as a collaborator (RAG, summarizing, filling gaps) without you committing your whole life to a system. If yo…

> where an LLM can be useful [...] RAG, summarizing, filling gaps

I'd also emphasize onboarding. To smooth "oh joy, yet another ux", and simplify/speed/clarify "yes, that'd be nice - but no, we don't support it yet". One might imagine a pkm ui where you just start telling what you want, and it executes keyboard-visualizer style. And clearly characterizes what it can't do. Rather than 'intro-doc:"to do X, fiddle Y" -> human:"ok... I need to fiddle... Y?" -> ui:fiddle-Y-event"'. Keybindings as efficiency "expert mode", rather than onboarding barrier.

> If you were to try a small fragment, what would you pick as the smallest useful scope[?]

Last month's items which each prompted a "I really wish I had better tooling for this" search for something to try, were: A largely self-contained todo space, with lots of fiddly bits (life todos for another person). An exploration of a project idea - chats, notes, links, papers, sketches (MetaPaint: given stickers for ui elements, a custom paint app UI is simply another kids painting). A nudge on a backburnered area of interest - chats, papers, jupyter (towards a didactic perceptual color space, where the features you notice are real features of human vision, not mere model artifacts).

I actually looked at Obsidian for the first one, but I really wanted lightweight hierarchical task decomposition with implicit but overridable dependencies. Currently doing a one-big-markdown with frequent manual-ish passes. Tempted to fork an existing "mutant-markdown as executable literate-Julia" kludge.

But "smallest useful scope"... hmm. Of those, "project" and ""log"" seem for me plausible - "team" perhaps more a follow-on. But... I've been wanting better so often for so long, I'm mostly gated on there being a either a clearly satisficing task fit up front, or some hope of a plateau escape. A slog of extending/kludging/adapting in hope of incremental gain has diminished appeal. Hmm, a thought: having just looked at several pkm docs, current onboarding seems more "start with the basics, and build out", rather than a clear "with a fully tricked out set of extensions, here is the envelope what you can/cannot/by-workaround manage with us today".

I'd really like a plateau escape. Outliners, Hypertext, tiny manual force-directed graphs... it's been a fun half century, but I'd like to move on now. I wonder what an old tidlywiki-style self-hosted pkm bootstrap might look like, in a time of git, whisper, discussion and coding LLMs, extensive community code repos, and graph libraries less hopelessly behind graph HCI research. 1080p HMDs, head-tracked 4K, and gestures. Hmm...

Re: Ask HN: Do you also "hoard" notes/links but struggle to turn them into actions?

#224
post #85
post #3

I quit hoarding. Collecting was the bottleneck, not organizing. Just get filtered digests now. Needed less input, not better retrieval.

That’s an important counterpoint: sometimes the fix is less intake, not better retrieval. What do your “filtered digests” look like (sources + cadence), and what makes them trustworthy enough to replace capture? This might be a better wedge than task-suggestions.

My setup: RSS (Reddit, HN, AI tech blogs) + a few investment YouTube channels → daily morning digest.

The key for trust was picking my own sources. No algorithm deciding what's "relevant" - just feeds I've vetted. When something's missing, it's obvious which source dropped the ball.

I ended up building a tool for this (daige.st). You connect sources, tell it what matters, and it sends filtered summaries. Has a memory feature that gets better at filtering over time.

Cadence is still WIP. Daily for fast news, maybe weekly for deeper topics. Curious what works for others.

Re: Ask HN: Do you also "hoard" notes/links but struggle to turn them into actions?

#225
post #23

I'm probably in your target audience. Capture: notion and twitter have been best, obsidian and regular markdown have been worst. Notion is good because of how they support a calendar view where you can put documents in a day's cell, and then see a list view that's just a stack of those notes. I keep a daily diary or youarehere type doc, where I'll have checklists and notes on small things that don't merit changes to…

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Re: Ask HN: Do you also "hoard" notes/links but struggle to turn them into actions?

#227
post #27

I actually like this idea, but most of my notes are scattered in untitled, unsaved textedit windows. It would be nice if I could run something locally that would access and scrape those unsaved notes, but would also leave them be. I don't think I'll ever stop having tons of these little note windows, but it would be nice if I could request a summary or forgotten action items in my own time.

That’s a great constraint: local-only, read-only access, and on-demand (pull) rather than push. I’m thinking the safest/lowest-friction version would treat those TextEdit drafts as an ephemeral “inbox”: index them locally, never rename/move/touch the files/windows, and only generate summaries or “possible action items” when you explicitly ask. If it ever became noisy, it should default to doing less, not more. Out of…

I think that for me with things like notes/writing, privacy is #1 by a lot. Preserving the textEdit workflow is nice, but I (and I imagine other users) could definitely be convinced to modify it given the right tooling and confidence in it. I know my workflow is not a productivity global maximum (and probably not even a local maximum), but everything I've seen so far does not justify itself as moving me far enough up on the productivity scale to offset the discomfort of changing habits.

Fwiw I really like the way you summarized the "constraint". Maybe I'm out of the loop on what's out there, but I don't think I've come across too many tools like that aside from lower level things like git.

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