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Re: The Codex App

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Post by another_twist »

samuelstros wrote: post #6

It's basically what Emdash ( https://www.emdash.sh/ ), Conductor ( https://www.conductor.build/ ) & CO have been building but as first class product from OpenAI. Begs the question if Anthropic will follow up with a first-class Claude Code "multi agent" (git worktree) app themselves.

I am not sure if multi agent approach is what it is hyped up to be. As long we are working on parallel work streams with defined contracts (say an agreed upon API def that backend implements and frontend uses), I'd assume that running independent agent coding sessions is faster and in fact more desirable so that neither side bends the code to comply with under specified contracts.

Re: The Codex App

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Post by girvo »

motbus3 wrote: post #127
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the $20 a month subscription for ChatGPT and the $200/year subscription to Claude (company reimbursed). I have yet to hit usage limits with Codex. I continuously reach it with Claude. I use them both the same way - hands on the wheel and very interactive, small changes and tell them both to update a file to keep up with what’s done and what to do as I test. Codex gets caught in a loop more often trying to fix…

I will say that doing small modifications or asking a bunch of stuff fills the context the same in my observations. It depends on your codebase and the rest of stuff you use (sub agents, skills, etc) I was once minimising the changes and trying to take the max of it. I did an uncountable numbers of tests and and variations. Didn't really matter much if I told it to do it all or change one line. I feel Claude code tri…

I don’t think it’s bias: I have no love for any of these tools, but in every evaluation we’ve done at work, Opus 4.5 continually comes out ahead in real world performance

Codex and Gemini are both good, but slower and less “smart” when it comes to our code base

Re: The Codex App

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Post by trunnell »

jimmy76615 wrote: post #132
rubslopes wrote: post #128

To me, the obvious next step for these companies is to integrate their products with web hosting. At this point, the remaining hurdle for non-developers is deploying their creations to the cloud with built-in monetization.

Just tell it to use your gcp/aws account using the cli, makes it infinitely powerful in terms of deployment. (Also, while I might miss some parts of programming that I have given to AI, I certainly don't miss working with clouds).

How about, "tell the agent to write instructions for cloud deployment with a cost estimate"

Re: The Codex App

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Post by ghosty141 »

poolnoodle wrote: post #103

These paid offerings geared toward software development must be a hell of a lot "smarter" than the regular chatbots. The amount of nonsense and bad or outright wrong code Gemini and ChatGPT throw at me lately is off the charts. I feel like they are getting dumber.

Yes they are, the fact that the agents have full access to your local project files makes a gigantic difference.

They do *very* well at things like: "Explain what this class does" or "Find the biggest pain points of the project architecture".

No comparison to regular ChatGPT when it comes to software development. I suggest trying it out, and not by saying "implement game" but rather try it by giving it clear scoped tasks where the AI doesn't have to think or abstract/generalize. So as some kind of code-monkey.

Re: The Codex App

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Post by kzahel »

tomashubelbauer wrote: post #7
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #3

This does look like it would simplify some aspects of using Codex on Mac, however, when I first saw the headline I thought this was going to be a phone app. And that started running a whole list of ideas through my brain... :( But overall, looks very nice and I'm looking forward to giving it a try.

I don't know why any frontier model lab can't ship a mobile app that doesn't use a cloud VM but is able to connect to your laptop/server and work against local files on there when on the same network (e.g.: on TailScale). Or even better act as a remote control for a harness running on that remote device, so you couldn't seamlessly switch between phone and laptop/server.

I'm also so baffled by this. I had to write my own app to be able to do seamless handoff between my laptop/desktop/phone and it works for me (https://github.com/kzahel/yepanywhere - nice web interface for claude using their SDK, MIT, E2E relay included, no tailscale required) but I'm so baffled why this isn't first priority. Why all these desktop apps?

Re: The Codex App

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Post by touristtam »

rirze wrote: post #134
lacoolj wrote: post #90

OpenAI, ChatGPT, Codex So many of the things that pioneered the way for the truly good (Claude, Gemini) to evolve. I am thankful for what they have done. But the quality is gone, and they are now in catch-up mode. This is clear, not just from the quality of GPT-5.x outputs, but from this article. They launch something new, flashy, should get the attention of all of us. And yet, they only launch to Apple devices? Then…

Not sure when you last evaluated the tools, but I strongly prefer Codex to Claude Code and Gemini. Codex gets complex tasks right and I don't keep hitting usage limits constantly. (this is comparing the 20$ ChatGPT to the 200$ Claude Pro Max plans fwiw) The tooling around ChatGPT and Codex is less, but their models are far more dependable imo than Antropic's at this very moment.

I am not sure how those TUI are going to fare against multi providers ones like opencode.

Re: The Codex App

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Post by gordon_freeman »

How does Codex mac app compare with Cursor? If anyone who tried both can explain here?

My experience with Cursor is generally good and I like that it gives me UX of using VS Code and also allows selection of multiple models to choose if one model is stuck on the prompt and does not work.

Re: The Codex App

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

Kind of embarrassing to demo "Please change this string to gpt-5.2". Presumably the diff UI doesn't let you edit the text manually? Or are they demonstrating being so AI-brained you refuse to type anything yourself?

Re: The Codex App

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Post by girvo »

rirze wrote: post #134
lacoolj wrote: post #90

OpenAI, ChatGPT, Codex So many of the things that pioneered the way for the truly good (Claude, Gemini) to evolve. I am thankful for what they have done. But the quality is gone, and they are now in catch-up mode. This is clear, not just from the quality of GPT-5.x outputs, but from this article. They launch something new, flashy, should get the attention of all of us. And yet, they only launch to Apple devices? Then…

Not sure when you last evaluated the tools, but I strongly prefer Codex to Claude Code and Gemini. Codex gets complex tasks right and I don't keep hitting usage limits constantly. (this is comparing the 20$ ChatGPT to the 200$ Claude Pro Max plans fwiw) The tooling around ChatGPT and Codex is less, but their models are far more dependable imo than Antropic's at this very moment.

I don’t hit Codex limits because it’s so much slower, is what I’ve found personally.

Re: The Codex App

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Post by [deleted] »

reddalo wrote: post #196
anonymous908213 wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the biggest advances in human history, and yet the owners of the technology with access to an unlimited number of "agents" using frontier models still can't release a desktop chat application without using Electron to bring in several hundred mb of bloat for displaying text. Someone's going to have to explain this one to me because the math is not mathing.

Exactly. If AI really worked, they would've released a native app. And it wouldn't take much to also get a Windows and a Linux native app, wouldn't it? Apparently, the Codex app itself is proof that AI is not that good at doing what people think it does.

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