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TIL: Apple Broke Time Machine Again on Tahoe

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Re: TIL: Apple Broke Time Machine Again on Tahoe

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Post by Aurornis »

codeulike wrote: post #32

Time Machine is held in high regard for some reason (maybe the fancy scrolling interface when you look for files to restore?) but it's not really useable. It pretends that backups-over-the-network are a possibility but its completely unstable over the network and invariably decides the backup is corrupt after a few months and then tells you you have to start from scratch.

> Time Machine is held in high regard for some reason (maybe the fancy scrolling interface when you look for files to restore?)

There was a time in the past when Time Machine was reliable and well-designed. It made backups into a nice experience that were accessible to everyone.

If your only experience with Time Machine is the modern incarnation with all of the flaws and seemingly missing QA process then I understand how its popularity would be confusing.

Re: TIL: Apple Broke Time Machine Again on Tahoe

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Post by ndegruchy »

gghffguhvc wrote: post #8
ndegruchy wrote: post #2

I use the same setup and was able to restore some files I recently deleted. My SMB settings in Synology were set to what the recommended settings were already. Not sure what happened in this person's case, but it also seems like he backed up and didn't test the restores. Which isn't good practice.

Time Machine is for the everyday person. The everyday person doesn’t have a few thousand dollars to buy a second machine just to properly test a full restore backup periodically.

Just as a quick follow up, I completely forgot about the tool BackupLoupe[1]. It allows you to slice into your existing Time Machine backups and find out all manner of information on what's going on, what is backed up, when and what is taking up so much space.

[1]: https://www.soma-zone.com/BackupLoupe/

Re: TIL: Apple Broke Time Machine Again on Tahoe

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Post by ebbi »

evilmonkey19 wrote: post #67

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I read about this a few months back (I think someone posted a link to a Reddit discussion about it). It's so bizarre!

Re: TIL: Apple Broke Time Machine Again on Tahoe

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Post by jvfjllkttg »

patte wrote: post #69
PunchyHamster wrote: post #47

restic and kopia should work decently, if with a bit of setup, I think both can just mount backup as FUSE filesystem The backup system that silently breaks when it doesn't like something in backend is not worth time

I did indeed switch to restic for everyday backup. Here I wrote about how to set it up so it has full disk access, uses TochID to access the secret and runs daily: https://github.com/patte/restic-macos-app

restic has the best documentation I’ve ever seen. And their developers are a joy to interact with.

Re: TIL: Apple Broke Time Machine Again on Tahoe

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Post by compiler-devel »

pier25 wrote: post #3

macOS yearly updates haven't been great since they started but Tahoe is a new low. Apple really needs to turn things around.

Sometime around High Sierra, I changed my habit such that I don't upgrade to the next major release until August. By then, it's been patched a half dozen times or so. Yes, I'm basically a year behind all the time, but I don't need the new features.

Re: TIL: Apple Broke Time Machine Again on Tahoe

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Post by jvfjllkttg »

ddtaylor wrote: post #62
whartung wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lose my Time Machine drive, like, every year or two. Sometimes, Time Machine just goes stupid and I have to wipe the drive and start over. All of my efforts in the past to copy or repair or do anything to a Time Machine drive has ended in folly, so when it starts acting up, I just wipe it and start anew. Other times, it's the drive itself, and I swap it out. 99% of the time, it Just Works. Wiping the drive for me i…

Apple customers pay for backup solutions to backup data they don't care about and they don't even care when it fails. The bar is so low!

Yes, the most important thing for apple’s customers is that they are able to pay apple.

Re: TIL: Apple Broke Time Machine Again on Tahoe

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Post by nodesocket »

I use TrueNAS as a Time Machine destination for multiple Macs running Tahoe. Seems to work fine with no local configuration changes. Just make sure in SMB global configuration you:

- Enable Apple SMB2/3 Protocol Extensions

And when creating the SMB share select Time Machine for purpose.

Re: TIL: Apple Broke Time Machine Again on Tahoe

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Post by heavyset_go »

jonhohle wrote: post #80

What is Apple’s QA process? Do they rely on some random set of manual tests that may or may not get run each release? There have been so many things that seem like one of the most valuable companies in the world would include in tests, but yet break or remain broken. As an experiment, open Console and filter just errors and faults. Dozens to hundreds of “errors” will scroll by representing the normal operation of the…

> What is Apple’s QA process?

"Does this increase iCloud subscriptions or not?"

Re: TIL: Apple Broke Time Machine Again on Tahoe

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Post by jcynix »

_rs wrote: post #40
H8crilA wrote: post #13

The author posted a fix, but how do I check if there is a problem in the first place?

I agree - I am running my own Samba server and I don't think I'm affected, but it isn't really clear to me how to double check or why Apple's new default broke things in the first place

You could create a timestamp file on your Mac, where your Mac adds a timestamp per day or hour and have a script check that the timestamps appear in your backup.
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